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Old 04-28-2015, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I thought that was weird too but glossed over and was just thinking that maybe they were very young parents (and still very young) but you're right, the scenario is impossible due to the dates and ages given.
People do get confused relating medical stories from years past. Remember the deaf Miss America 1995, Heather Whitestone? Her mom said she became deaf due to antibiotics prescribed to treat a DPT reaction. I thought at the time it was more likely she had a Hib infection, which was later confirmed.
Doctors: Vaccine Didn't Cost Miss America Her Hearing - tribunedigital-sunsentinel

That's why it's wise to take these stories people post about vaccine-damaged kids with a grain of salt, or maybe a box of salt.

 
Old 04-28-2015, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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That means 2/3 of people DON'T get shingles. Which is the great number? Ever consider that is why I have only known THREE people?




Your personal experience means basically nothing in the grand scheme of things, you repeatedly keep making that mistake in this thread. It's the classic ostrich head in the sand routine.


"Because I don't know anyone who has suffered from this, it must not matter."


It's very short-sighted thinking.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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What's I think is silly is that you are latching onto something that has not been proven yet. Childhood shingles has always been very rare. You're making grand assumptions off of extremely limited information.
Childhood shingles has always been rare. It is even more rare in children who have received the chickenpox vaccine.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 08:40 PM
 
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Childhood shingles has always been rare. It is even more rare in children who have received the chickenpox vaccine.
Show us some stats to back that up the claim that childhood shingles is down. Shingles in general has been on the rise since the mid 1990's.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 08:50 PM
 
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Shingles cases on the rise - TODAY'S TMJ4

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Researchers say cases (of shingles) are up six fold across all age groups, and college kids are no exception. Dr. Barbara Yawn, is an FAAFP shingles study author. She explains, "Instead of maybe one every three or four months, you may be having two or three each month in the college and that stands out.". Yawn authored a study on shingles recurrences.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 09:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Katarina Witt View Post
Shingles - Can Children Get Shingles?
"Their risk of developing shingles does seem to be much less than for children who aren't vaccinated with the chicken pox vaccine though."


Chickenpox Vaccine Not Responsible for Rise in Shingles, Study Says
""The chickenpox vaccine program was introduced in 1996, so we looked at the incidence of shingles from the early '90s to 2010, and found that shingles was already increasing before the vaccine program started," said study author Dr. Craig Hales, a medical epidemiologist at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "And as immunization coverage in children reached 90 percent, shingles continued at the same rate.""

Both articles contain references, if you're interested in digging deeper.
I didn't see any reference to the claim that children's risk of coming down with shingles is less when they get the chicken pox vaccine. It sounds like speculation. If the chicken pox vaccine reduces the incidence of shingles then the rate of shingles should be going down, not up.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 11:13 PM
 
Location: in the mountains
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I see that many people are finally getting their wish to control the medical decisions of others and force parents to get their children vaccinated against their will. Congratulations. You are one scary bunch.
a bunch of totalitarian fascists, to be exact...
 
Old 04-28-2015, 11:18 PM
 
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the only scary ones are the mouth breathing morons who don't vaccinate their kids.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 11:23 PM
 
Location: in the mountains
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"Major Outbreaks" huh.....I'm sure you think so. The reality is that the world is a smaller place than ever before, as we saw with Ebola, virtually any disease is a plane flight away, so pointing the fingers at immigrants just reeks of straight xenophobia when it could just as easily be an American citizen who is returning home from vacation.


The diseases that we can protect against, we should do so, hence why vaccination is so important.
Then why were all the outbreaks near the US-Mexico border? Since you claim Latin America is more vaccinated than the US is, why would the outbreaks occur near the border with Mexico? Hmmmmmmmmm

It's pretty obvious it has something to do with all the undocumented people streaming in from Mexico. I highly doubt they brought their vaccination records with them as they snuck into our country.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 11:25 PM
 
Location: in the mountains
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010 View Post
Bird flu is not affecting humans, though there have been outbreaks in birds in border states - states bordering Canada.

The flu season is winding down, but states in the Northeast are still seeing a good bit of it. Oops, there's that border with Canada again!

Weekly US Map: Influenza Summary Update | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Hand, foot, and mouth disease can be caused by any of several viruses, all of which are endemic in the US.

In other words, you need have no fear of our southern neighbors.
You forgot to make excuses for the Swine Flu outbreaks in Southern California
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