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Old 06-03-2015, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by PoppySead View Post
Sorry but I'm really tired. It doesn't matter you guys don't need me here, talk amongst yourself. Remove that choice from the ignorant ones.


I'm sure you'll be back in no time, eagerly spouting more emotionally-driven rhetoric pulled off of conspiracy websites and Facebook pages all across the interwebs.

 
Old 06-03-2015, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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I provided you a link directly to the CDC and what the purpose of the system is. In case you missed it, here you go again.
Hard to miss that thousands of reports were found to be "coincidence"
Un sueable drug company
Compensation fund
Yep got it!
Yawn......you feel good? I'm done.
 
Old 06-03-2015, 12:44 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted by PoppySead View Post
Hard to miss that thousands of reports were found to be "coincidence"
Un sueable drug company
Compensation fund
Yep got it!
Yawn......you feel good? I'm done.



Actually a lot of the reports are third person reporting from people who read about something on the internet or heard from a friend of a friend. Many aren't even able to be investigated and it seems that there are indeed those who have abused the system towards a specific agenda.


Its not like there isn't clear documented evidence of the VAERS system being abused for the purposes of litigation. Much of the reports on thimerosal mysteriously vanished once you couldn't find it in the vast majority of vaccines.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract







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"There’s absolutely no linkage between cause and effect," Catherine Troisi, an infectious disease epidemiologist at the University of Texas Health Science Center, told us. "If I received the flu vaccine yesterday and got hit by a bus today, I could enter that into VAERS. But I doubt anyone would say the vaccine caused the accident. VAERS is a great reporting system to look for trends that would trigger further studies – but it does not pretend to prove that the conditions entered are related to vaccination."
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...-illnesses-in/







And the compensation fund is there for people who felt like they suffered real damages from vaccines. Out of over 100 million doses of vaccines given in the U.S. each year, 155 people end up being compensated on average. Clearly that 30,000 number is only taken seriously by you and the rest of the anti-vax crowd.

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Old 06-03-2015, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Another example why correlation does not equal causation.




On correlation, causation, and the "real" cause of autism






Oh and..



 
Old 06-03-2015, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=160&v=QgpfNScEd3M
 
Old 06-03-2015, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=39&v=i2mdwmpLYLY
 
Old 06-03-2015, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Many people who refuse measles vaccines argue that measles is a relatively harmless childhood disease, and some even argue that a "natural" infection somehow strengthens the immune system. The findings of this study suggest they are wrong in more ways than one.
"We already knew that measles attacks immune memory, and that it was immunosuppressive for a short amount of time. But this paper suggests that immune suppression lasts much longer than previously suspected," said C. Jessica Metcalf, an assistant professor of ecology and evolutionary biology at Princeton who worked on the study.

"In other words, if you get measles, three years down the road, you could die from something that you would not die from had you not been infected with measles."
Measles Vaccination Saves You From More Than Measles - NBC News






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It's one of the reasons for global measles vaccination campaigns, and public health specialists have noticed something else happens after millions of kids in a country get vaccinated against measles: death rates from other infections go down, too.
Researchers have looked at why. Rik de Swart of Erasmus University Medical Center in the Netherlands and colleagues discovered it has to do with so-called memory T-cells, which "learn" to attack disease-causing germs. These are the cells that help protect people from a disease such as measles once they've been infected one time.
De Swart's team discovered not only that measles kills off many of these T-cells, but that those remaining seem to forget everything else and focus solely on measles.
After seeing this study, Mina and colleagues looked at databases from countries such as the U.S., Denmark and Britain to see just how much infection rates went down after mass vaccination started.
"Reducing measles incidence appears to cause a drop in deaths from other infectious diseases."
The pattern was clear, says Bryan Grenfell of Princeton.
"Reducing measles incidence appears to cause a drop in deaths from other infectious diseases due to indirect effects of measles infection on the human immune system," Grenfell said. "At the population level, the data suggests that when measles was rampant, it may have led to a reduction in herd immunity against other infectious diseases."
 
Old 06-03-2015, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Wow, Juram! You're having a party with yourself on here. See, those kind of tactics are why people can't trust you pro vax guys. Loading up the thread so people can't see others posts. Tsk, tsk. What a waste of time.
 
Old 06-03-2015, 02:24 AM
 
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Another example why correlation does not equal causation.








Oh and..



That's just nonsense. What in Organic food causes Autism?

Vaccines that contain Mercury can lead to Autism. The SIGNS of Mercury Poisoning is the same symptoms of that of Autism.

The increase of Vaccinations and points to the increase of Autism. Mercury is a POISON. Why the hell would you inject poison into a developing newborn?

Also, Autism affects white children the most. It's because white people love to inject their kids with all these vaccines because of the scare tactic the see in the media.

Explain why Autism is rampant in paranoid white people injecting their newborns with Mercury. Let me guess, it's "Genetics"? LOL

Go ahead, keep injecting your newborns with poison. I could care less.
 
Old 06-03-2015, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Subconscious Syncope, USA (Northeastern US)
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I dont know how people can say vaccination shouldnt be a personal choice.

Sad News: 17 Children Die After Receiving Hepa B Vaccine

It's Official: 139 Girls Have Died From HPV Vaccinations

Flu Vaccine Deaths: Just How Rare Are They? Learn How to Find Out for Yourself. | VaxTruth.org

National Vaccine Information Center Newsletter

Possible Side-effects from Vaccines | Vaccines.gov


Dr. Harper, the vaccine developer, claimed she was speaking out so she ‘might finally be able to sleep at night’. In her own words “About eight in every ten women who have been sexually active will have H.P.V. at some stage of their life. Normally there are no symptoms, and in 98 percent of cases it clears itself. But in those cases where it doesn’t, and isn’t treated, it can lead to pre-cancerous cells which may develop into cervical cancer.”


“You cannot be in the presence of a profoundly vaccine damaged child and not know that child could be your own. And you cannot try to comfort a mother who has just buried a baby who has died from a vaccine … and not know that you could be the one standing over the grave. When it happens to your child, the risks are 100 percent."




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