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Old 04-27-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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IThat did sound a bit weird and actually the idea of a burka is somewhat contradictory to our core values of freedom or is it? One could flip the coin and say freedom means just that - freedom to wear whatever you want.
Goddamn it, what's next, the Jews wearing yarmulke, the Christians wearing the cross, the Mormons wearing the missionary outfit?

"The idea of a burka is somewhat contradictory to our core values of freedom or is it?" In my best imitation of Gary Coleman, "Whatcha talkin' bout, Willis?"

Do you live in a rural area? You might want to take a vacation in NYC for a week or two.

Mick
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Old 04-27-2015, 04:38 PM
 
Location: USA
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I have seen a few woman who wear full Burkas in my area.

Not very common but with freedom of religion, they have a right to wear them.

I don't know how security at the airports would handle this since you must show ID at the gate and would they have to take the Burka offs to prove who they are?
I know quite a few Muslim women who wear stylish Hijabs and scarves but I hadn't seen the full Saudi Style Burka with eye cut outs only, until recently in San Diego. How they get into the country through airport security is beyond me
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Old 04-27-2015, 04:57 PM
 
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The Quran instructs women and men to be modest and cover themselves. From what I've read, this is open to interpretation for all but the most conservative factions. That is why it runs the gamut from Western dress only to full Burquas.
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Old 04-27-2015, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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I never see full face burqas, but I do often see the head scarves. I don't guess it's any different than Mennonite or Amish women only wearing long dresses. It's all based on silly dated beliefs IMO.

I do wonder what happens if they need photo ID. Surely they must take the face covering off for the pic?

Yup. It's different. Because those Amish women are easily identified as women.
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Old 04-27-2015, 06:26 PM
 
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I noticed the other day at the grocery stores two apparently Muslim women wearing full burkas (where the eyes only show). They were in company of a regular, neat and clean western dressed man of middle eastern looks and they were trying to figure out how to work the food dispensers at the health food isle. I figured they are probably newly arrived immigrants and didn't pay much attention to it.

This is becoming a common sight where I am at. Regulars in the gym, grocery stores, on the streets. My sister mentioned at her YMCA there was a woman using a burka in the common area swimming pool. That did sound a bit weird and actually the idea of a burka is somewhat contradictory to our core values of freedom or is it? One could flip the coin and say freedom means just that - freedom to wear whatever you want.

I mentioned this to a friend who lives in the north end of town (I live south) and he seemed in disbelief, women in burkas in the US? I was surprised he was stumped.

I am wondering is this a common sight across the entire US or is it more common in the area where I live?

Are you surprised to see this in the US?
How is the idea of a burka contradictory to freedom? Shouldn't someone be able to wear what they like?
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Old 04-27-2015, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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How is the idea of a burka contradictory to freedom? Shouldn't someone be able to wear what they like?
The belief is that the males are forcing the dehumanizing hiding of the human face on their female family members
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Old 04-27-2015, 06:36 PM
 
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The belief is that the males are forcing the dehumanizing hiding of the human face on their female family members
From the women I have heard from, this is a choice they make themselves. Especially if it is in a country such as the US where people have much more freedom. It is already illegal to force someone to do something with threats here.
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Old 04-27-2015, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Montana
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I don't know anyone who has served in the military in the middle east that isn't enraged by the sight of a burka in western countries. Not saying it is a rational thing, just that it's there.

The way that all but a handful of women (usually married to extreme wealth) are treated in Muslim countries is anything but respectful or loving. I get sick thinking about the women beggars and the physical violence and brutality I saw there.
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Old 04-27-2015, 07:06 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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I've lived on both the east and west coasts and have see women in burkas exactly twice. When I see Muslim women they wear head scarves. People getting worked up about nothing.
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Old 04-27-2015, 07:16 PM
 
Location: in the mountains
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I noticed the other day at the grocery stores two apparently Muslim women wearing full burkas (where the eyes only show). They were in company of a regular, neat and clean western dressed man of middle eastern looks and they were trying to figure out how to work the food dispensers at the health food isle. I figured they are probably newly arrived immigrants and didn't pay much attention to it.

This is becoming a common sight where I am at. Regulars in the gym, grocery stores, on the streets. My sister mentioned at her YMCA there was a woman using a burka in the common area swimming pool. That did sound a bit weird and actually the idea of a burka is somewhat contradictory to our core values of freedom or is it? One could flip the coin and say freedom means just that - freedom to wear whatever you want.

I mentioned this to a friend who lives in the north end of town (I live south) and he seemed in disbelief, women in burkas in the US? I was surprised he was stumped.
Where in the US are you>
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