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Old 04-28-2015, 05:23 PM
Status: "Finally Done With C-D BYE BYE" (set 14 days ago)
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Originally Posted by armory View Post
Everyone is racist, some more than most.

Racist covers anything from bias to prejudice and all people are those.
Ummm, bigoted I'd agree but racist?

rac·ism (rā′sĭz′əm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

big•ot•ed (ˈbɪg ə tɪd)

adj.
extremely intolerant of another's creed, belief, or opinion.
[1635–45]
big′ot•ed•ly, adv.
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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Thank you for proving the point, no wonder the OP wants to close the thread.

Hopefully you aren't pursuing a career in comedy...
Was Barack HUSSEIN Obama trying to be a comedian when he said about thug Travon Martin......." If I had a son he would look like Travon " ?
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Everyone is racist, some more than most.

Racist covers anything from bias to prejudice and all people are those.
Speak for yourself!

If you had stopped at biases, I'd maybe agree, but prejudice? I don't know about that one.
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Please, take your nonsense to the fox news comment section. It doesn't desrve to be seen by anybody with a sound and unbiased mind.

What's the matter, kid? Don't like having to look in the mirror and admitting to what you see there? That proggies believe they have every right to their neighbors wallet? That proggies hate anyone who calls their selfishness into question? But go ahead and whimper to the mods to please take down the thread you started with an asinine woe-is-me column of foolish ignorance. Run away, run away, never stand and defend your position, just complain about mean and nasty people who are too smart to agree with you.
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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They should make the rioters rebuild the community center and pick up the wreckage they caused.

In shackles like Cool hand Luke.
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Old 04-28-2015, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Why is this happening? Its a number of factors that can trigger riots and first off it is not racism and its all related to economics and class. I put some of the blame on failed string of federal policies going down from Obama to LBJ regardless if anyone is Democrat or Republican. Same could be said for fail policies of local municipality and state government of Maryland also failed to support its local populace. Same could also be said for other areas of the country. Why did this happen?

We have to look at the disinvestment of urban communities over the years including redlining, blockbusting, white flight to he suburbs in the past, along with recent waves of investment in urban communities and gentrification. Disinvestment and investment in urban communities do not benefit low income dwellers in many ways, example disinvestment their is no banks, or insurance agencies around, but with investment in communities many low income folks do not earn enough to keep money in the bank and get raped with fees, or can not afford certain insurances. Lack of investment means no economic opportunities to develop stable communities, on the flip side with new urban reinvestment low income folks will obtain jobs, but these jobs are low paying service jobs and provide no or little benefits making those that still depending on governmental aide to get by. The higher paid jobs are for those who have a 4 year college degree and most of those workers are not from local communities, but are from suburbs and highly educated or moved to the city to be close to their jobs.

2008 economic recession destroyed the American "Middle Class", but most notably destroyed the black "Middle Class" in this country. Plenty of blacks in this country took out subprime mortgage loans, and if anything only had assets in their equity of their homes which was destroyed, plenty of blacks do not have 401k, stocks, bonds, or even pensions, trust or inheritances making difficult for blacks to bounce back into economic stability and prosperity. Even though the recession is over, plenty in this country are still reeling from the 2008 crash whether it would be black or white or anyone in between.

Decline of community policing is another factor that caused this mess. Officers that work in certain communities do not feel attached to the people they provide service too and often feel disconnected which can create racism, fear and stress amongst officers towards citizens. Also officers do not live in the community of the jurisdiction or county and do not feel or know what local citizens go through. Officers also do not feel part of the community.

All I have to say is that great Empires fall and they mainly fall from within. The US is slowly crumbling from within and its going to crumble slowly. Right now in Moscow, Beijing, New Delhi, Tehran and other world capitals, leaders are cheering and happy that America is going down. Don't get me wrong America is still going to be powerful but this is fire has been burning until the turns into flames. Putin and Jintao are very happy that this is probably happening. With more internal conflicts in this country, with broken and declining transit infrastructure, growing inequality, decline in public education, and healthcare is going to allow America to pull back from the world stage.

What can be done to fix this problem in Baltimore but also in other low income or AA parts of America? Their needs to be better investment in urban areas that can benefit minorities with better pay, insurance and job security. Better pay and job security can remove dependence on welfare and create stable communities and households. Suburbs need to become sustainable with jobs, amenities and public transit so that those that be can live in the burbs and not move to urban areas so that rents and mortgages wont be able to rise for low income urbanites. The government needs to refocus on public education in urban areas instead of pushing privately funded charters. Police need to go back to community policing and distance themselves from broken windows. Officers need to become part of the community in some way, shape or form. Also police reform is needed such as if officers live outside of jurisdiction or county they will be paid less compared to living within county or jurisdiction they serve. Also when to fire or shoot, officers may need to have a college degree to join a police force. Body Cameras are also a good idea, maybe officers using non lethal weapons such as rubber bullets or energy guns to subdue criminals instead of lethal ammo or tasers. The real issue is not black and white, but of years of economic oppression, repression along with failed policies from a string of presidents, local leaders, and law makers alike.
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:28 PM
 
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I expected a moment of reflection in which people take a step back from calling the rioters thugs and hoodrats and look at the history of suffering that the people of balitmore endured.
Suffering you say. Ok, specifically what suffering have people in Balitomore experienced vs. other towns in America?



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I don't understand the why you're trying to come off as pretentious to someone who been neutral to you, but it's really isn't helping your case. All it does is give me a good excuse to dismiss everything you say.
Pretentious is not the right word to describe the disdain I have for people who think and live as if life were in a vacuum, and half baked feel good ideas (if only given a chance) would somehow make everything right. Condescension is more like it, as I just don't have the patience for naïve ignorance like I use to.
Maybe you have not been keeping score, but when liberals started all sorts of half baked social programs thinking that was the solution, it hasn't worked. Yet our society has poured in an estimated $20+ TRILLION thus far, and we still has cesspools like Baltimore.



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I don't understand this section of your post. It sounds absolutely insane to me. Did you literally just say people are naive for wishing for equality, and sentiments for workers to have rights and a way to support themselves are "feel good half baked thoughts"? You're going to have to explain this one, because I think you're a little over the deep end on this one.
You are either being obtuse, or your lack of pragmatism is showing. People "can wish for anything they like", however wishing is not a mature or practical way of approaching a problem with any hope of solving it. There is a reason many inner cities are slums, but the PCers don't want to look at the real causes, they just want to come up with more half baked ideas, typically involving throwing money at it. As I mentioned earlier, $20+TRILLION and still growing has in many cases made things worse, not better. Making people feel as if they are owed something, or must be dependent on the government from cradle to grave will never lift them out of despair. Also the producers of this country are fed up with having to foot the bill for able-bodied people to lazy, ignorant, etc. to fend for themselves. You leftists have failed miserably, yet because you come up with feel good ideas, anyone opposed to them and that believes in tough love is mocked as being a heartless person.




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This is mindless Jingoism. Europe has a healthcare system and an education system surpassing our own, which one of which was currently a point of much contention. America has alot to learn from it's foreign neighbors. It is a country of foreigners, after all.
You cannot possibly do a reasoned comparative analogy between our nation and others in Europe or Asia that have completely different societies and unified cultures. As to us being a country of foreigners, that is about the first thing you have said that I agree with. However those different cultures were suppose to come here, add to the society, and become part of the same melting part culture. Our FF's never intended for us to become hyphenated-Americans, and be dependent on the state. Instead we became a great nation by being self sufficient without much of the things like you probably desire, such as socialism/communism. You are ignorant of history if you think those two systems are superior to ours.



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This is an insidious joke. This sentiment is poisoning this country.
Love it or leave it, but do not try to subvert it from within. Personally I believe your thoughts are what is poisoning our country. I'd bet dollars to donuts that if we could ask the Founding Fathers which vision of America was closer to what they intended for us, mine would win, hands down. As a matter of fact, yours would probably lead to a charge of sedition.
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Old 04-29-2015, 01:26 AM
 
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2 reasons why they rioted:

1)they're racist as hell
2)they're completely brainwashed
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Old 04-29-2015, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Do these people have what it takes to keep a job ?

Do they have basic math and reading comprehension skills ?.
I partially blame all the unnecessary obstacles that employers place in front of prospective employees today, as well. Even many with college degrees can't find work today, and you take someone who just got out of jail/prison, with a record, who's going to hire them?

And if I was in that spot, or anyone else, need I say more?
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:00 AM
 
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I partially blame all the unnecessary obstacles that employers place in front of prospective employees today, as well. Even many with college degrees can't find work today, and you take someone who just got out of jail/prison, with a record, who's going to hire them?

And if I was in that spot, or anyone else, need I say more?
People who just got out of prison get hired all the time in florida ...if they want to work, that is. most don't want to cus they get way more than 10 an hour in the street robbing people an ish.

Don't know how it is in other states though.
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