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Old 04-29-2015, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Baltimore and Ferguson are both southern cities...
My thoughts exactly. Anyway, it is a fool's errand to try and pin this on one geographic region-this is a nationwide problem.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I don't know anyone who considers Baltimore "southern". It seems to have a lot more in common with the northeast than the south. If anything it may be mid Atlantic if you don't want to call it northern but it's certainly not a southern city. Virginia is pretty much the upper limit of the "South", geographically, politically, and culturally. Baltimore isn't even laid out and constructed like the major cities in the south. Maryland has more in common today with the other Mid-Atlantic states of NJ, NY, and PA, than it does with VA, TN, or NC.
Actually mostly everyone in New England and New York considers Maryland to be The South.

It seems it is in Pennsylvania where people start to think that deep Virginia is where the South begins.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Chicago - Logan Square
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It doesn't have anything to do with where a city is located, but instead has a lot to do with the population density of a city. If you don't have a lot of people living in close proximity to each other, you are much less likely to get crowds building to a large enough size to start rioting.

Other than a few cities in VA and Florida, there are no cities in the South that break the top 50 for population density, and large cities like Atlanta and Houston don't even break the top 100. They're incredibly spread out, that's why riots occur less frequently.

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I will also agree with that story that the transparency of the Charleston police and their quick response in the Walter Scott death likely played a part. Basically got the video, released it, fired the officer, charged him with murder all within 2 days.
It didn't simply "play a part", it is almost entirely the reason that there wasn't a riot over the death.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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As a Baltimorean, I don't really consider Baltimore 'southern,' although I know Maryland is technically a southern state. It's weird, but Baltimore doesn't have much in common with other southern states. At least not to me. But I definitely don't consider it a northern city.

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Old 04-29-2015, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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As a Baltimorean, I don't really consider Baltimore 'southern,' although I know Maryland is technically a southern state. It's weird, but Baltimore doesn't have much in common with other southern states. At least to me. But I definitely don't consider it a northern city.
I guess it's best to call it Mid Atlantic then as I agree it doesn't have much at all in common with the south.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I guess it's best to call it Mid Atlantic then as I agree it doesn't have much at all in common with the south.
Yeah-Baltimore and Philly actually have very similar builds.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:48 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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I don't know anyone who considers Baltimore "southern". It seems to have a lot more in common with the northeast than the south. If anything it may be mid Atlantic if you don't want to call it northern but it's certainly not a southern city. Virginia is pretty much the upper limit of the "South", geographically, politically, and culturally. Baltimore isn't even laid out and constructed like the major cities in the south. Maryland has more in common today with the other Mid-Atlantic states of NJ, NY, and PA, than it does with VA, TN, or NC.
I didn't say it was southern, but it's definitely not northern.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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Actually mostly everyone in New England and New York considers Maryland to be The South.

It seems it is in Pennsylvania where people start to think that deep Virginia is where the South begins.
Yep. MD is south.

Missouri is part of another region entirely. When I think "northerner" I think everything north of MD and east of Ohio. So basically NY, PA, NJ and New England.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:42 AM
 
Location: 60630
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Please move this thread to the right forum. Why are we discussing on Current events whether Baltimore or Ferguson are southern or not. Because that is what this thread turned out to be by the second post.
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Old 04-29-2015, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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Please move this thread to the right forum. Why are we discussing on Current events whether Baltimore or Ferguson are southern or not. Because that is what this thread turned out to be by the second post.
When there is an error made in the claim, it is appropriate to correct that error before the conversation continues.

Is rioting a northern thing? No, it is not inherent to being in the north. The examples used were apart of central and southern (arguably) America.

If rioting was a northern thing then examples of NY, PA, CT, NJ, RI, DE, NH, MA, ME etc etc would be used. That's not to say of course that these examples would "prove" anything.
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