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Old 06-14-2015, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Corporations have been outsourcing for decades. The one I worked for before I retired certainly did. Layoffs were constantly ensuing as a result. Disney is just a large corporation like any other large corporation so this doesn't really surprise me but I hope they will reconsider and allow their employees to keep their jobs.
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Old 06-14-2015, 08:32 PM
 
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Disney are a global company that just happens to be headquartered in the USA. Many of its clients, locations, suppliers, shareholders and employees are not American or in America. Americans have no automatic right to be considered for employment. They need to be more competitive than those foreign workers. That is the way it works in the global economy.
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Old 06-14-2015, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Southeast Michigan
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Disney are a global company that just happens to be headquartered in the USA. Many of its clients, locations, suppliers, shareholders and employees are not American or in America. Americans have no automatic right to be considered for employment. They need to be more competitive than those foreign workers. That is the way it works in the global economy.


They can't be more competitive when they have high cost of living, unless they only compete with other developed countries that have high cost of living.


Globalization is the competition in poverty, the race to the bottom, and it forces countries into trade agreements that render national governments powerless / irrelevant (such as the 3rd party arbitration agreements) thus destroying national sovereignty.


Contrary to what the paid ideologues keep repeating, protectionism is not a dirty word, and the "free market" is an idealistic, unworkable concept, much like communism. Generations of citizens worked hard on making the West the most technologically advanced, most free, and richest society on Earth; there's absolutely nothing wrong with trying to preserve this. However, the chances of them getting together and changing the direction in which the modern world is going are minimal.
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Old 06-15-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Central 858
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The "Bottom Line" has no loyalty.

Yes, this sucks. But that's how it works.
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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It's all about labor costs.

It's much cheaper to contract out to Wipro, Infosys, Tata.
By contracting out a company has greatly reduced their total labor costs. Salary is just a portion of a company's total labor cost.

1 US programmer = 2 Chinese programmers = 4 Indian programmers
Yeah, but often, you get what you pay for.

Chinese H1bs have been stealing copyrighted intellectual property for years and Indian programmers are often difficult to work with because of the language barrier and time difference.
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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Outsourcing is different from the H1B visa.. This latest story, they were outsourcing.. Ok.. I'm not a fan of that, but it's all perfectly fine and legal.

The story that started this topic was about replacing US workers with imported workers.. Which is NOT necessarily perfectly fine and legal.

The H1B visa program is designed to fill positions that there are no qualified workers for.. However, companies are using it to hire foreign workers, and while they have to pay them the same wage as replaced workers.. They don't have to give them the same benefits, it seems.. So, they can save quite a bit of money that way.
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:36 PM
 
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Outsourcing is different from the H1B visa.. This latest story, they were outsourcing.. Ok.. I'm not a fan of that, but it's all perfectly fine and legal.

The story that started this topic was about replacing US workers with imported workers.. Which is NOT necessarily perfectly fine and legal.

The H1B visa program is designed to fill positions that there are no qualified workers for.. However, companies are using it to hire foreign workers, and while they have to pay them the same wage as replaced workers.. They don't have to give them the same benefits, it seems.. So, they can save quite a bit of money that way.


They don't have to give them the same wage. They have to give them at least minimum wage.

They just busted a company for paying a bunch of H1bs 1.10 per hour. Made them back pay it up to minimum wage. They were using one of those "tipped employee" loopholes to avoid the paltry $8 per hr minimum.

These were tech guys.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:37 PM
 
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We live in a global economy which will require people to be more proactive with their careers.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:44 PM
 
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This is capitalism at its finest, let's cut even more regulations!
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County
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I'm sick and tired of all this fury!
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