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Old 04-30-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Does anyone know this for a fact about this particular woman, or are you just *racially generalizing* now?
If you read the thread, you'd see that she has pursued three different men for child support of her various children.
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Old 04-30-2015, 12:48 PM
 
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And good for her. I hope each one of those talk shows pay her for her visit too.
Oh she is saying the right things. One of the very few to do so. Maybe even that might turn on the light bulb for a few others.
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Old 04-30-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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I would think a very, very tiny percentage of the population wouldn't agree with the basic statement, "You shouldn't have more kids than you can afford."

The ones who don't agree aren't going to read this and change their mind.

Even if the woman made poor reproductive choices, at least she wasn't out there telling her son where to get the really good loot.
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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she has a gofundme page now. not sure if it's legit but it's over $9,000 at the moment.
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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I said it earlier: just stop paying out more $ per extra child. If they can't afford to have as many children as they have, each new and additional child goes into the orphanage unless she can prove she has the cash flow to raise more children on her own.

Enforce child support with stricter penalties, and the money from child support goes to the orphanages and not the six-baby stay-at-home single mothers.

People would be popping out fewer "welfare babies" real quick.
I believe they tried not paying for additional children and setting time limits on welfare (welfare to work programs), maybe still have that in effect in some states IDK. Why this is not working or being implemented IDK.

Orphanages cost $$, they are over crowded and there are a slew of problems that are much worse than single parent welfare recipients. Surely you don't believe government run or funded organizations are run efficiently, logically and without corruption.

We have pretty strict child support penalties now, wage garnishment, loss of license, jail time. What more would you suggest we do when a man can not pay XXX/mo. on a XX/mo. wage?

We need ideas that work for real, not in theory.
Perhaps decent public education, job training, actual jobs.
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:06 PM
 
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she has a gofundme page now. not sure if it's legit but it's over $9,000 at the moment.
Wonder if she will donate any of that money to the ones harmed by the looting done by her son and others? Will any of it be given towards the clean up and rebuilding effort?
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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[quote=WaldoKitty;39434746]Wonder if she will donate any of that money to the ones harmed by the looting done by her son and others? Will any of it be given towards the clean up and rebuilding effort?[/quote

What evidence do you have that her son caused any damage before she pulled him out? how do you know if he was looting or protesting? Why, if she is the one mom who pulled her son out, is she now the one who should be responsible for paying the city?? That's ridiculous, and all it would send message-wise is she should have just let him stay there.
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Even when someone does something good, haters gotta hate...

pretty despicable
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Let me rephrase then: the event is the Riots, which are caused by Welfare incentives provided by the government. Without them, none of these rioters living in a world without hope would even exist in the first place.

The government created these riots, through a system of welfare payments that provides enough money to want to have more kids but doesn't provide (as would be nearly impossible) any chance of obtaining good employment, etc.

People think welfare helps combat inequalty in society, but it actually creates a society divided between Haves (who pay their own way) and Have Nots (who live off welfare). Most of these Have Nots would simply not exist in the first place without it.
I work and pay my own way, but do not consider myself a "have" by ANY stretch of the imagination....

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Culturally, trailer park trash doesn't tend to have 6 kids to every 1 mother in order to collect more food stamps, so they'd be OK.

Also, trailer parks are very sparsely populated and they are spread out across the outskirts of cities. They're not the ultra-concentrated dens of poverty (and 7 people to a room) that inner city projects are in places like Baltimore. Kind of hard to get 28 white country bumpkin people, strewn out across half a mile, together to riot.

There's a reason you've never seen it happen before.
LOL .... you haven't been to or spent any time in trailer parks or small, rural towns, have you??

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Even better. Why isn't anyone ragging on the absent father(s) and their lack of parental involvement/guidance?
At least this woman is doing some parenting, knows where her kid is and is trying to teach him something. How bout just a small attaboy instead of focusing on the number of children and her marital status.
because THAT would not suit the angry, outraged, racist agenda.....

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I said it earlier: just stop paying out more $ per extra child. If they can't afford to have as many children as they have, each new and additional child goes into the orphanage unless she can prove she has the cash flow to raise more children on her own.

Enforce child support with stricter penalties, and the money from child support goes to the orphanages and not the six-baby stay-at-home single mothers.

People would be popping out fewer "welfare babies" real quick.
How do you know this woman is even receiving welfare benefits?? do you just ass-u-me so because she is African American and has a large family? It has been widely reported that she is, or was, an assistant manager at a behavioral health facility..... now, we don't know the circumstances of her job loss, but I am guessing that there is some sort of UE benefits involved.... and even though she is African American with six children, UE benefits do not equal welfare....

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Does anyone know this for a fact about this particular woman, or are you just *racially generalizing* now?
it's the same ol' find any way possible to fan the flames of righteous outrage.... of "them" vs "us"
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Old 04-30-2015, 02:17 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Orphanages cost $$, they are over crowded and there are a slew of problems that are much worse than single parent welfare recipients. Surely you don't believe government run or funded organizations are run efficiently, logically and without corruption.
The whole point is to make the orphanage a deterrent to having more children you can't afford. If they were the best places to send kids to grow up, it would almost be counterproductive.
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