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Old 05-04-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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Yeah because it would be so difficult to learn how to say a name correctly.
Almost as difficult as it is to give a child a name that's easy to pronounce.
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Old 05-04-2015, 07:56 PM
 
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Almost as difficult as it is to give a child a name that's easy to pronounce.
Difficult to pronounce for whom?
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Old 05-04-2015, 07:58 PM
 
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You completely miss the point.

The entire nonsense about "anglo-american" (as linked from that opinion piece in the OP) is necessary so that an equivalence fallacy can be created. Hence, the association of common names in the USA with the White race from England. Once that is established, then it becomes easy to associate any name with race. i.e. Ebonics names.

Of course names commonly used in the USA, England, and elsewhere have many orgins, many of which are from the Bible where there isn't an association with race at all. Hence Christian name or others from history. The fallacy is broken. i.e. It's not about race at all. So the claims that Ebonics names were a response to Blacks throwing off shackles of the White supremists racists is nothing but nonsense.
I don't think you have a solid grasp of race relations in the US...
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:10 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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A few years ago a nurse friend working in Oakland, CA told us that often when mothers are asked the name of the baby for the birth certificate the staff will ask them to spell it, and the result is those creative names such as Airwrecka.
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Old 05-04-2015, 10:25 PM
 
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I named my daughters traditionally "boy" names for this exact issue, pre employment bias. While their gender may exclude them at the interview, it won't impact the first screening.

I'm a feminist, a pragmatic one.
I'm sure your daughters are thrilled that you chose to imprint them for life with your dysfunctional philosophies. Way to put your children's happiness and future over your own vanity.



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Interesting. They get the interview, get all dolled up and drive down. The person interviewing them is in shock. "Wow, you're Black" and forgets about the resume, degrees, experience and automatically makes up their mind. NO.

See the problem here....
Yes, because Black people never get hired for anything and they're always discriminated against. A Black person will never be chosen over a White person. There are no successful Blacks in every single sector of the professional world. Being Black is a career death sentence.
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:28 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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I'm sure your daughters are thrilled that you chose to imprint them for life with your dysfunctional philosophies. Way to put your children's happiness and future over your own vanity.





Yes, because Black people never get hired for anything and they're always discriminated against. A Black person will never be chosen over a White person. There are no successful Blacks in every single sector of the professional world. Being Black is a career death sentence.
LOL, yup all blacks in every city are unemployed or on welfare according to the poster. I am amazed that there are no productive blacks in none of the major cities in the United States.
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Old 05-05-2015, 12:35 AM
 
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I don't think you have a solid grasp of race relations in the US...
Please inform us then about what I don't know. I'm willing to listen. Otherwise, you were unable to address the message and instead attack the messenger.
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Old 05-05-2015, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Greater NYC
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In the 1960s, Anglo-American names were common among African American children. Pre-emancipation enslaved African Americans were mostly named by owners.

It wasn't until the 1970s and the rise of the Black Power movement, which was a response to 35 years of separate but equal and decades of police brutality and housing discrimination. that this shifted in the other direction. The underlying philosophy of the Black Power movement was to encourage Blacks to accentuate and affirm black culture and fight the claims of black inferiority. The adoption of “black” names is consistent with other cultural changes—like “natural hair"—prompted by the movement. African Americans wanted to distinguish themselves from whites, and develop a culture unique to them naming was an easy means to the end.

40 years later According to a University of Chicago study, résumés with black-sounding names are 50% less likely to get a call back. Black constituents with typically "black-names" are 80% less likely to have white legislator return an email or phone call when their name is revealed.

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Today on twitter "#thingsIput on my resume was trending" and I posted "if your name could be considered ethnic or black I would suggest using your 1st and middle initials instead of your full-name."

I was met with a mirage of resistance which I understand but if it won't get you any further in the work field let only get your foot in the door for the interview what's the argument. I know it's institutionalized racism but it takes decades and policy after policy to reverse that, so what is Kiara or De'Quan supposed to do in the mean time?

On the other hand people were spewing this like "Yeah we can you imagine a CEO name La'Quanda or Merecedes?" and I thought ummmm yes and a President named Barack.

"White people giving their kids names like Saxby Chambliss and Tagg Romney is a clear sign of cultural pathology.” If names like “DeShawn” and “Shanice” are fair targets for ridicule, then the same should be true for “Saxby” and “Tagg.”" - said Jamelle Bouie.

What's your view... should African American's just conform and make it is easy or is pride and ethnocentrism ok and even if you have a "black name you shouldn't initial or avoid it?
I haven't read all the responses over 50 pages but this EXACT topic is covered objectively in the hugely successful bestseller from a decade ago, Freakonomics http://www.amazon.com/Freakonomics-E.../dp/0060731338

There's also a ton of other coverage. It's fascinating. https://www.google.com/search?q=Frea...cs+black+names
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Old 05-05-2015, 07:48 AM
 
Location: BC, Arizona
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I'm sure your daughters are thrilled that you chose to imprint them for life with your dysfunctional philosophies. Way to put your children's happiness and future over your own vanity.
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I'll match my kids' success and happiness (and future employability) against any offspring of yours any day, any time . Thanks for your concern
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Old 05-05-2015, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Monnem Germany/ from San Diego
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I love the name Peaches, Porscha, Kristal, Mercedes, Maserti, Suga, Ginger for women, all gorgeous names lol
At least Mercedes is a proper womans name. It was the name of Carl Benz´s favorite niece. He named the car after her.
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