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Old 04-30-2015, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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A classic case of this is Barack Hussein Obama. Despite his middle name he was elected twice. I still wonder why his mother put Hussein as a middle name. She should have known it may have caused him problems in adulthood. Sometimes striving to be different can bite you in the butt, it has caused him some trouble also.
I don't think Hussein carried the same weight 53 years ago when Barack was born as it does today. He did go by Barry for many of his developmental years.
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Old 04-30-2015, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Suffolk, Va
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In the 1960s, Anglo-American names were common among African American children. Pre-emancipation enslaved African Americans were mostly named by owners.

It wasn't until the 1970s and the rise of the Black Power movement, which was a response to 35 years of separate but equal and decades of police brutality and housing discrimination. that this shifted in the other direction. The underlying philosophy of the Black Power movement was to encourage Blacks to accentuate and affirm black culture and fight the claims of black inferiority. The adoption of “black” names is consistent with other cultural changes—like “natural hair"—prompted by the movement. African Americans wanted to distinguish themselves from whites, and develop a culture unique to them naming was an easy means to the end.

40 years later According to a University of Chicago study, résumés with black-sounding names are 50% less likely to get a call back. Black constituents with typically "black-names" are 80% less likely to have white legislator return an email or phone call when their name is revealed.

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Today on twitter "#thingsIput on my resume was trending" and I posted "if your name could be considered ethnic or black I would suggest using your 1st and middle initials instead of your full-name."

I was met with a mirage of resistance which I understand but if it won't get you any further in the work field let only get your foot in the door for the interview what's the argument. I know it's institutionalized racism but it takes decades and policy after policy to reverse that, so what is Kiara or De'Quan supposed to do in the mean time?

On the other hand people were spewing this like "Yeah we can you imagine a CEO name La'Quanda or Merecedes?" and I thought ummmm yes and a President named Barack.

"White people giving their kids names like Saxby Chambliss and Tagg Romney is a clear sign of cultural pathology.” If names like “DeShawn” and “Shanice” are fair targets for ridicule, then the same should be true for “Saxby” and “Tagg.”" - said Jamelle Bouie.

What's your view... should African American's just conform and make it is easy or is pride and ethnocentrism ok and even if you have a "black name you shouldn't initial or avoid it?
the name game, as i like to call it, is an extension of respectability politics. resumes are not getting passed over, because of names. they are getting passed over, because, by their names, employers can tell they are black people and the employers are trying to avoid hiring black people. I'm sure many racist employers are overjoyed to get resumes with "black sounding" names on them. it's probably annoying for them to call Sue Smith up for an interview, only to find out that Sue is black. what a waste of time.
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Old 04-30-2015, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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In case you thought Hussein made no difference to Obama’s career, recall that all during the campaign anybody who dared call him Hussein was called all sorts of names. It is still true. There must be something negative about Hussein even after being twice elected president.
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Old 04-30-2015, 09:29 PM
 
Location: 53179
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My favorite boy name is Erik and Karl. Both names are Scandinavian but still very common among Black males. My son's name is Erik.
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Old 04-30-2015, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Default Not Hired Because of Ghetto Name?

I'm sure people have trouble sometimes due to having a "ghetto name". Given all the negative things associated with the ghetto how could it be otherwise? It isn't fair to those individuals, but it is understandable and probably unavoidable.
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Old 04-30-2015, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Japan
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the name game, as i like to call it, is an extension of respectability politics. resumes are not getting passed over, because of names. they are getting passed over, because, by their names, employers can tell they are black people and the employers are trying to avoid hiring black people. I'm sure many racist employers are overjoyed to get resumes with "black sounding" names on them. it's probably annoying for them to call Sue Smith up for an interview, only to find out that Sue is black. what a waste of time.
Most employers would like nothing more than to meet a person with the good resume, who also sounded good on the phone, and discover that they are black. Being able to hire a good employee who happens to be black is a whole lot better than having to hire a black person, who isn't so good, to meet some diversity quota.
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Old 04-30-2015, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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A classic case of this is Barack Hussein Obama. Despite his middle name he was elected twice. I still wonder why his mother put Hussein as a middle name. She should have known it may have caused him problems in adulthood. Sometimes striving to be different can bite you in the butt, it has caused him some trouble also.
How old are you? You do understand that the name Hussein is 1)extremely common in certain parts of the world and 2)it's his father's name. He is Barack Obama Jr. That's why he's named that.

I hope you also understand that Saddam Hussein wasn't considered an "enemy" until long after our President was already born!
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Old 04-30-2015, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Is Kiara a "black" name. I see girls of different races with this name.

I hate the crazy spellings. r.
Kiara sounds like a porn stars name.
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Old 05-01-2015, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Kiara sounds like a porn stars name.
Kiara - meaning of Kiara name

"Kiara \ki(a)-ra\ as a girl's name is pronounced kee-AR-ah. It is of Irish origin, and the meaning of Kiara is "black". Variant of Ciara. Feminine of Kieran.

Kiara has 4 variant forms: Keearra, Keira, Kiarra and Kierra.
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Old 05-01-2015, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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No such thing.

Not "anglo american" names what ever that is supposed to mean. They were Christian names. Taken from the Bible. It was once common to ask for last name & Christian name.
Judeo-Christian (biblical) names were Anglicized.

Jesus wasn't called "Jesus" by the Hebrews. His name was Yeshua. Mary was "Mariam". Etc.
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