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Old 05-04-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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A black guy named John, Joe, Bill or Steve still might not get hired from people who prefer to not have "Deshawn" or "taunisha" at their establishment. They'd have a greater chance at getting an interview, though.

Interesting. They get the interview, get all dolled up and drive down. The person interviewing them is in shock. "Wow, you're Black" and forgets about the resume, degrees, experience and automatically makes up their mind. NO.

See the problem here....
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:05 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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No such thing.

Not "anglo american" names what ever that is supposed to mean. They were Christian names. Taken from the Bible. It was once common to ask for last name & Christian name.

American Baby boomers, both Black & White decided to break away from the habit and started naming their kids all kinds of things. This is why many now have last names for first names and all sorts of nonsensical names.
I must point out that just because a name was taken from the Bible doesn't mean it wasn't made up. Every word that has ever existed, including people's names, is made up because language is a man made invention. Language is NOT natural at all. It exists because it is much more convenient for a person to use speech that a person to use pictures to communicate his or her thoughts to others. Some black names sound more ridiculous than names given to other people because the names of other people, no matter what race, have been used for generations, are more aesthetically pleasing, are easier to spell, and easier to pronounce.
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:35 AM
 
Location: USA
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A classic case of this is Barack Hussein Obama. Despite his middle name he was elected twice. I still wonder why his mother put Hussein as a middle name. She should have known it may have caused him problems in adulthood. Sometimes striving to be different can bite you in the butt, it has caused him some trouble also.
Of course it made a difference in his life as he went by Barry for years. Considering his Father abandoned him and his mother when he was one I'm surprised he talks so fondly of his father. Of course many abandoned children seek the approval of the men who abandoned them
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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I think it would be best if we keep naming our kids what we prefer and work on eliminating the judgement. Giving into peer pressure isn't what we teach our kids verbally, but yet it is what we tend to show them with our actions as adults. I think we should stop, drop and roll...

I know plenty of well educated and capable people with unique names..we should promote getting over it, not giving into it. Who wants a world full of Bobbies and Kathy's? Nice names but a world full of them would be creepy.


Yep. Let the people who have the issue with other people's names get over it. No reason for people to start conforming to what one culture thinks is the right way.
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Old 05-04-2015, 12:24 PM
 
Location: BC, Arizona
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Interesting. They get the interview, get all dolled up and drive down. The person interviewing them is in shock. "Wow, you're Black" and forgets about the resume, degrees, experience and automatically makes up their mind. NO.

See the problem here....
This doesn't deal with active racism but it does get around the "implicit bias" issue that all of us have (preferences that are not overt, rather subtle and perhaps ones we're not aware of).
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Old 05-04-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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Name your kid a name you would see up on the door of a corner office.

Also a name easy to pronounce and spell.

Also a name that does not disclose too much about who you are.

And not to Ethnic a name.

And never misspell your kids name.
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Old 05-04-2015, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Name your kid a name you would see up on the door of a corner office.
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Old 05-04-2015, 02:58 PM
 
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My thought is that you are coming up with silly excuses to justify your biases. Try focusing on their qualifications and not these fictional "emotional scars" you are making up in your head.
If it was IT work that might be important, not so much with general labor positions.
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:01 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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lilicia, tonit, thasunda, princell, netha, doxie.... the rest are pretty normal.
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Old 05-04-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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I must point out that just because a name was taken from the Bible doesn't mean it wasn't made up. Every word that has ever existed, including people's names, is made up because language is a man made invention. Language is NOT natural at all. It exists because it is much more convenient for a person to use speech that a person to use pictures to communicate his or her thoughts to others. Some black names sound more ridiculous than names given to other people because the names of other people, no matter what race, have been used for generations, are more aesthetically pleasing, are easier to spell, and easier to pronounce.
You completely miss the point.

The entire nonsense about "anglo-american" (as linked from that opinion piece in the OP) is necessary so that an equivalence fallacy can be created. Hence, the association of common names in the USA with the White race from England. Once that is established, then it becomes easy to associate any name with race. i.e. Ebonics names.

Of course names commonly used in the USA, England, and elsewhere have many orgins, many of which are from the Bible where there isn't an association with race at all. Hence Christian name or others from history. The fallacy is broken. i.e. It's not about race at all. So the claims that Ebonics names were a response to Blacks throwing off shackles of the White supremists racists is nothing but nonsense.
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