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Old 05-01-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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+1 on the van's route and timeline. It makes no sense whatsoever.

To be fair, the $4k contribution was made long before Freddy died and before his family retained Murphy. If we say there is a conflict of interest here, a defense lawyer could NEVER make a contribution to a prosecutor candidate, since it would mean that it could potentially come back to disqualify him from a lucrative case much later.

I am certain that the prosecutor is not going to let the $4k contribution sway her decision - what would be on her mind is the peer pressure she would face as an African-American woman.

Mick

Just a correction - it was 5k, not 4k. Small detail, but details and facts are all that matter. Because the contribution came before the Gray case, the attorneys for the police officers can and WILL suggest that convictions could be part of a payback system between Mosby and the law firm. Not saying at all that this is the case, but it will create a huge legal cluster come discovery and trial time.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:24 AM
 
Location: CasaMo
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you conveniently left out the part of my post where I was rebutting Waldokitty's claim that the State Attorney filed charges due to a $4,000 campaign contribution by the attorney representing Gray's family. My point was to illustrate how some of us choose when to ignore the influence of donations/contributions but jump on the same thing when they feel it supports their case, but I am sure you knew that and just wanted to look clever here
Then leave at at that and keep your lame "Koch Brothers" straw man out of it.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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Why would you think I have an explanation?
Well you've been rather prolific when it comes to alibis, excuses, motives, alternate scenarios, and general comments regarding the inexplicable innocence of the Baltimore City Police in this case. So I would find it out of character that you wouldn't be able to come up with an explanation for these missing periods of time in the narrative offered by the officers directly involved. That is why I asked.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:27 AM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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Well you've been rather prolific when it comes to alibis, excuses, motives, alternate scenarios, and general comments regarding the inexplicable innocents of the Baltimore City Police in this case so I would find it out of character that you wouldn't be able to come up with an explanation for these missing period of time in the narrative offered by the officers directly involved.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:28 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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First step to finding out the truth.

If they're guilty, they need to pay the price.

If they're not, it needs to be put behind them.

Still no reason to burn down a neighborhood, hurting innocent people and destroying the livelihood of business owners.
Agree with all.

Peaceful protest would get the point across SO MUCH BETTER.

From all appearances, this man should not have died.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:29 AM
 
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..... My point was to illustrate how some of us choose when to ignore the influence of donations/contributions but jump on the same thing when they feel it supports their case, but I am sure you knew that and just wanted to look clever here
If you are referring to me, I have not done this. As I said in the other topic, if you have a logic argument then there is no need to use tactic of personal attack and insult.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I hope they move the venue somewhere way far outside of Baltimore.

Guilty or not, they need a fair trial, not a dog and pony show for a lynch mob.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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Well. This didn't take long.

FOP calls on prosecutor to recuse herself, defends officers - Baltimore Sun
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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This will all come out at trial but I'm guessing the homicide ruling was largely due to him not being belted in as per policy.
Here's one possible rub with this theory which is that said policy was reportedly only in effect for a couple of days prior to this incident AND the rank/file were not fully informed of this change.

Look for lots of twist and turns as this hits the courts but for now the masses should be mollified.
wrong..the policy enacted on April 3 was an update to a 1997 policy that required securing prisoners during transport.

Baltimore police may have ignored seatbelt policy with man killed in custody | 7online.com

In the 80's an agency I was employed at had a prisoner transport van with benches that ran along the sides, at appx. 2' intervals there were eye hooks welded to the wall of the van with shackles on a short chain welded to the hooks to ensure that prisoners were secured to the seat during transport. When a new Chief was hired he replaced those eye hooks with seatbelts citing concern about the difficulty in getting inmates out of the van in the case of a serious accident. I can't imagine any medium to large size agency not having a policy in place that would deal with that, everyone knew what "van therapy" meant and LE Administrators did everything they could to prevent it from happening.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:33 AM
 
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The jury will decide based on facts, not speculation, and hopefully not emotion and/or fear of nationwide rioting if they rule in the cop's favor.

In the Zimmerman case, the prosecution had absolutely no case. I watched the entire trial play out on the screen. NO case against him at all. It was laughable that this man was brought to trail to begin with. The jury ruled properly. But freakin nobody cares about the facts and evidence.
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