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Old 05-02-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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What absurd generalizations. And if you don't think things are better than in the 70s then there's no helping you.
The riot in Baltimore suggest that in some circles things are much worse. And Baltimore has a black mayor, black chief of police, a black school board, etc.

BTW, 3 of the six cops that were charged are black.
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:24 PM
 
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The slightly longer lifespan of Hispanics, despite poverty, is an interesting bit of trivia isn't it? I wonder if they share some genetic predisposition for that with their East Asian cousins (who have even longer lifespans).


Actually, the indigenous people of Central and South America are very much like American Indians----------and came from Asia.
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:26 PM
 
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Of course it's about money.
You think just like they do. And that is not hard to understand since we are still in a rather premature stage. We are mostly concerned with material things. Yes, we have a long way to go.
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:27 PM
 
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Not long ago I had to drive through the bad neighborhoods in Baltimore. In every other intersection there were working crews doing road repairs. All work crews were 100% Hispanic! There was not a single black worker even though I was cruising through a neighborhood that is 100% black.

The above sounds like a standard negative from the mouth of a conservative, but i am actually a socialist. The reason blacks do not work is because they do not have the same MEMES as the immigrants. They don't wok because they have different cultural values and that does not change overnight.
Which blacks are you talking about?

All 60 million or the ones you saw in Baltimore?
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:27 PM
 
Location: la la land
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Please. because of affirmative action and fear of court actions, blacks are guaranteed jobs even if not qualified. All they have to do is keep their noses clean and apply..
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Uh, because that is what affirmative action is. Own the problem, or you will always be in last place. I only say it because I care. My people (white) and my wife's people (Hispanic) are doing outstanding, and will continue to do so. This is tough love.
You need to read up on what affirmative action is before you make blatantly false statements such as that:

"First, only businesses who also happen to be federal contractors have any obligations to implement “affirmative action” programs. Businesses that provide goods or services to the federal government in the amount of $50,000 or more, and who have 50 or more employees"

"Whether you are a federal contractor or not, affirmative action does not mean preferences or quotas. Period."

"However, at no point, ever, is the employer permitted to use race or gender as a deciding factor in hiring an employee and must consistently hire the most qualified candidate. To hire a less-qualified person due to race or gender would violate the other federal discrimination laws."

"In closing, the law simply abhors preferences, quotas and hiring less-qualified individuals. There is no real “affirmative action” (as that term is commonly known) under the law for hiring, or promotions. Always remember -- discrimination of any form is discrimination – in favor of or against any one group"

Labor Law: Affirmative action and employers - Richmond.com: Learning Center

Do you feel foolish yet? If not you should
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:32 PM
 
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Black men need decent jobs. White men do, also, but the Black men are more likely not to have jobs available. They can't be self-reliant and autonomous without means.
So what's stopping them from getting a job?

And spare me the woe is me crap. I grew up in the lowest of poverty in Appalachia, in a county that had almost 30% unemployment. But I got the hell out of there. So again, what's stopping black men?
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:33 PM
 
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Which blacks are you talking about?

All 60 million or the ones you saw in Baltimore?


Love this comment. It's always "the blacks"....all 30+ million.

All 30 + million think and act EXACTLY alike.

I should ask the black engineers at work about the blacks in Baltimore. I'm sure they know allll about them.
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Old 05-02-2015, 08:30 PM
 
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No one said there are no black people doing as much. This is a false dichotomy fallacy. They are 12-13% of 330 million people. Of course some of them are trying.

What is true is that they are doing so in far fewer numbers than any other group, and even if gaining ground in absolute terms, they are losing in relative terms.

I have played this game before. It is going to be any diversion, and trick, any canard to avoid admitting simple truth. Let us again draw attention to a few a couple of jaw dropping statistics:

In South Carolina, blacks were recently outperformed by ELS students in English.

A few years back, almost 70% of Detroit students scored in math as if they were guessing the answers.

You can find your own horror stories all throughout the internet, and no, they are not biased. They are not made up stories from Fox news. They are not racist. They are simple truths.

You are hurting black people by ignoring them. You are hurting blacks by not telling the truth. You are hurting black America by not solving the problem. You are hurting blacks by putting your head in the sand and remaining in denial.

Time to own up.
A few years back the liberal Minneapolis Star Tribune did an in depth study of why blacks get suspended from school at a higher rate than whites. They interviewed a black male .......sophomore and a black female....Jr High

Black male.......suspended from school 9 times from Sept to March. Fighting, talking in class, talking back to teacher, coming in late for numerous classes and disrupting the class,
His excuse..............teachers fault as they don't like him

Black female.........suspended 6 times from Sept to March. same as male.........fighting, refusing to sit down in class, late entering class during day

Her pot bellied mommy ( about 30 years old )was interviewed and had a big grin on her face. She was beaming with pride and said it was the teachers' fault as they just can't accept an independent young black female.

Despite what was in the paper, the liberal Minneapolis Tribune drew a conclusion that the teachers needed more training on diversity.

Yup, they always portray big mouth young blacks as being victims.
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Old 05-02-2015, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Nashville TN
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To get out of the hole is not about money. We have all seen folks that made a ton a money and remained thugs. Aaron Hernandez was a multimillionaire, but he was still a thug.

Getting out of the inner city mind set means having a change in culture. The obsession with money and the acquisition of money is not the issue for black America. The issue for blackAmerica is a cultural one. In some other circles it is known as the culture of the poor and making money foes not get rid of the cultural traits and MEMES.

I am fully convinced most poor and well do do blacks have no clue about how to advance to a different level. And I repeat: That cultural level is not about money.
I totally agree with you sadly I have seen many blacks blame Jews and Muslims and Latinos for their problems as well as whites, its quite sad.
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Old 05-03-2015, 12:04 AM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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(Some) white people: Blacks need to take responsibility for their own problems and stop blaming us guiltless white people

(Some) black people: We must take responsibility for problems AND whites need to acknowledge their role in our plight.

(Other) white people: Blacks seem to be doing just fine, I didn't think they had that many issues outside of the hoodrats.

(Other) black people: Yeah, I have a college degree, great career, pay my taxes just like my friends....what problems?
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