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Old 05-02-2015, 10:26 PM
 
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Its a decent paying job for someone with no other marketable skills, and odds are pretty good you will go home every night, so long as a you shoot first......
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Old 05-02-2015, 10:35 PM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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52.4% WERE BLACK...............yet, they only make up about 14% of the US population

People complain that too many blacks are locked up in prison compared to whites.

When only 14% of the population commits 52% of the homicides, that explains a lot.
In many cities like NY, that ratio is much higher. If I recall it's around 70%.
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Old 05-02-2015, 11:31 PM
 
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Amen, wpme. This pays extremely well given the limited prerequisites required to be considered. Especially when one adds in lucrative pensions and terrific insurance.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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No its not..buit if the perp didn't run and wasn't a criminal we would not be having this conversation.
So a death sentence should result in someone who runs from the police? What happened to our Constitution and Bill of Rights?
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:20 AM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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I guess the ones who choose inner city work are adrenaline junkies, and also have a dominant personality type.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:28 AM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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So a death sentence should result in someone who runs from the police? What happened to our Constitution and Bill of Rights?
Death sentence? Do you mean that a miniature instant court is convened while they are running, and a sentence of death is passed?

If a suspect runs, it's reasonable to think they might have committed some sort of crime or have a warrant for their arrest. If the suspect turns and pulls a gun or attempts to use deadly force, then the officer may use deadly force to protect himself. It's not a "sentence", it's self-defense, just as you might do if someone tried to kill you.

What about Freddie and Eric Garner? Well on some occasions the cops screw up or in very rare circumstances knowingly murder someone ....... yeah, they're not all perfect, but on average they're a helluva lot better than criminals who kill a LOT of people.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:42 AM
 
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Of course there is.

Follow procedure.

Listen to the person in custody when asking for medical attention.

Don't use brutality if not necessary.

Don't shoot to kill if the threat is gone since the person you want is fleeing with their back towards you. That means to me, the threat no longer exists.

If one truly wants to make a difference as a public servant, it takes humanity, compassion and not allowing oneself to become callous, mentally burnt out. If one can't use self control and good judgment, maybe that thankless job is not for you (general you).

all my opinion
Finished. End of thread.

Perfectly stated Amythyst.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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Death sentence? Do you mean that a miniature instant court is convened while they are running, and a sentence of death is passed?

If a suspect runs, it's reasonable to think they might have committed some sort of crime or have a warrant for their arrest. If the suspect turns and pulls a gun or attempts to use deadly force, then the officer may use deadly force to protect himself. It's not a "sentence", it's self-defense, just as you might do if someone tried to kill you.

What about Freddie and Eric Garner? Well on some occasions the cops screw up or in very rare circumstances knowingly murder someone ....... yeah, they're not all perfect, but on average they're a helluva lot better than criminals who kill a LOT of people.
Yeah, sticking your knee on someone's head while they lay on the ground is "self defense". Not buying it.

Lately, police officers seem to make situations worse---such as tasering an elderly woman suffering from dementia. Great stuff there. I am impressed.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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Yeah, sticking your knee on someone's head while they lay on the ground is "self defense". Not buying it.

Lately, police officers seem to make situations worse---such as tasering an elderly woman suffering from dementia. Great stuff there. I am impressed.
Or killing a 12 year old on a playground...
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:57 AM
 
Location: USA
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I guess the ones who choose inner city work are adrenaline junkies, and also have a dominant personality type.
In Chicago most new officers are assigned to violent districts before putting in time to move out to different districts.

I think its somewhat good, and somewhat bad.



The bad part being that the officers don't get to develop relationships with residents. It's kind of like a revolving door, similar to the school system.






Honestly, I think we need a complete overhaul of some communities. And not by pouring a ton of money into them, but by getting people who are gifted at helping, and understand the problems, to come in and help. If there's going to be money poured into the communities do it through businesses owned by the community, or help existing business owners expand. Something where the responsibility and ownership stays in the community.



I think a similar plan should be created for some rural distressed areas. Stop paying billions to build up other countries and start with our own.





Our leadership owns this problem as much if not more than any individual officer.
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