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Old 05-29-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Manslaughter????
How about Dogslaughter?
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Old 05-29-2015, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Manslaughter????

Seriously?

For heaven's sake, they're dogs, not humans!

An unfortunate mistake, but a mistake nevertheless.
I think some people are saying that because if you were to hit the police dog you could be charged for assaulting an officer, the same charge as if it were a human officer.
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Old 05-29-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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Putting aside how much I love dogs, and how tragic this whole thing is, I think any criminal prosecution is going a bit overboard. I don't think anyone can assume that this officer intended to harm his dogs, and without that intent it becomes a matter of negligence and/or an accident. He may or may not justifiably lose his job, but I don't think it would be unfair for him to have to reimburse to taxpayers for the cost of the dogs & their training. He actually destroyed public owned police property, and at least should be held responsible for that.
I think he should be held to the same standard you and I would face if we accidentally killed a police dog.
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Old 05-29-2015, 07:57 PM
 
Location: zooland 1
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There are specific charges for killing a police dog
Criminal charges would require specific intent ... it might be a stretch to prove intent... there is no charge for gross negligence in relation to police dogs
There is cruelty to animals... again a specific intent crime
Same issues
Sad... and if any of the questions I asked in my original post are true then
Disgusting

But...there is process... and while none of us like it ..it is the same offered to any of you... except he will most likely lose his job if found guilty... by either a criminal court or a founded personnel unvestigation
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:25 PM
 
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Manslaughter????

Seriously?

For heaven's sake, they're dogs, not humans!

An unfortunate mistake, but a mistake nevertheless.
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:36 PM
 
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ALL humans make mistakes...but most of the time we get away with them...how many times have I bent down for a split second in the car to pick up something I dropped while I was driving? Too many to count. I've been lucky, nothing's ever happened...but that .0000001% of the time, it does....the driver hits a pedestrian, or a tree, or the man half asleep after a 15 hour shift forgets his sleeping dogs are in the back...this could happen to any of us, and I believe that with all my heart. I do not think he should be charged if it truly was an accident. I feel the same about the poor parents who have forgotten their kids were in the car.

There was recently a thread about a commuter that remembered while he was on the train that his baby was in the car, and called 911. People in general were very forgiving of him. In this case it is no different, except he couldn't save them because he was sleeping versus riding in a train, yet people think he's a beast. I don't get it.

I'm not a cop booster, on every thread in Current Events about police shootings, I'm on the side of the protesters, my record is easy to find...but in this case I truly think he loved the dogs, you can see it in the pictures, and this was just a human being human but that resulted in tragedy.

Where do you get that he worked 15 hours? Night shift is usually 10pm-6am (8 hours).

Doesn't matter if the dogs were his buddies or just work partners..... cops are creatures of habit and go through the same routine day after day. Hard to imagine a 7 year K9 vet suddenly forgets that he owned dogs for 12+ hours. I have had dogs for many years and I can't go 5 minutes without wondering where my dogs are if they aren't with me.
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Old 05-30-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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Where do you get that he worked 15 hours? Night shift is usually 10pm-6am (8 hours).

Doesn't matter if the dogs were his buddies or just work partners..... cops are creatures of habit and go through the same routine day after day. Hard to imagine a 7 year K9 vet suddenly forgets that he owned dogs for 12+ hours. I have had dogs for many years and I can't go 5 minutes without wondering where my dogs are if they aren't with me.
It said he worked a 12 hour shift, but then a poster a page or two ago said he worked a few hours overtime. Even if it was less, 12 hours, it doesn't change it for me.

So what are you implying? That he did it on purpose? For what reason? You can see in the pictures of them in the pool with him that he had a good relationship with them.
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Old 05-30-2015, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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It said he worked a 12 hour shift, but then a poster a page or two ago said he worked a few hours overtime. Even if it was less, 12 hours, it doesn't change it for me.

So what are you implying? That he did it on purpose? For what reason? You can see in the pictures of them in the pool with him that he had a good relationship with them.
I think what he means is that as a dog owner you know you have to keep an eye on your pets. I know I have to take my dog out before going to bed. I know I have to take my dog out when I wake up. I know I check on my dog when I wake up in the middle of the night because he likes to get into trouble.

The officer should have had some sort of daily routine with his dogs. Feeding, walking etc. I cannot imagine coming home and just suddenly forget to take care of my dog.
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Old 05-30-2015, 12:10 PM
 
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I think he should be held to the same standard you and I would face if we accidentally killed a police dog.
Exactly
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Old 05-30-2015, 12:53 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Manslaughter????

Seriously?

For heaven's sake, they're dogs, not humans!

An unfortunate mistake, but a mistake nevertheless.
You should see the pageantry that goes on here when a police dog dies. Recently one was put down due to ill health and old age and he had a police procession to the Vet's office; they lined up to salute the poor thing as he was being led into the office; civilians lined the streets to salute all the way to the Vet's and all the way back after he was euthanized.
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