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Old 05-31-2015, 08:44 AM
 
Location: USA
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Hey..you're getting what you want. Police arrests are down in cities all over the US.
They are changing over to responding to crimes rather than trying to prevent crimes.

And with that said crimes are up in these very same cities all over the US.
In Harlem alone (NYC) crime is up 500%.

So with the police backing off "harassing innocent citizens" what is the plan of action ?


The New Nationwide Crime Wave - WSJ
And you just had bikers kill 9 people in one rip there in Texas. Are you screaming the world's coming to an end?




Honestly, this conversation is over. I can see where your headed. Have fun.
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Old 05-31-2015, 09:09 AM
 
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So now Baltimore wants the American Taxpayers to pay $20 million for "riot damage"????

Baltimore Wants to Charge American Taxpayers for the $20 Million in Riot Damages | John Hawkins' Right Wing News

I'm ok with that as LONG as they cut benefits to Baltimore welfare recipients to pay directly that same $20M. It goes into their account 1 month at a time as taken from those that created this issue.
The federal government cannot afford to insure against all things that could go wrong. Floods, hurricanes, earthquakes, and now riots.

It's true that $20 million is very little in the grand scheme of things; but it's a slippery slope.

Perhaps we need some sort of expanded FEMA where cities pay premiums every year to be insured against big disasters. If we go this route, then I'd be fine with giving aid, as long as we actually try to set a system up to deal with disasters in the future, whether natural or man-made.
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Old 05-31-2015, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And you just had bikers kill 9 people in one rip there in Texas. Are you screaming the world's coming to an end?




Honestly, this conversation is over. I can see where your headed. Have fun.
Violent crime is increasing due to cops backing off proactive policing.
And the anti-police are in denial as noted by this post of pure deflection.
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Old 05-31-2015, 10:38 AM
 
Location: London
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And employers would be standing in line waiting to hire them, right? I would imagine you are aware that if one has the slightest infraction against the law in his/her past, employers avoid them like the plague.

This is exactly what the ACLU wants. They do not want "the children" punished. Instead they want meaningful community service to help the thugs (children), learn a trade. It is too bad they weren't shot.
And that's the other part of the problem. So many people get nailed for things like drug possession or being at the wrong place at the wrong time, and their ability to be law-abiding citizens after that is wiped out because nobody will hire them. So of course they'll go on to live a life of crime.

It it was me, I would not hesitate to commit any crime necessary to survive. It's not like in other developed countries, where there's a social safety net I could use while getting back on my feet. Here, it's fight or die.

If there was a solid social safety net for most people if they needed it, and/or if there were more stringent laws on background checks and the scope of them permitted, the country would very likely be a much safer place.
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Old 05-31-2015, 11:05 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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And that's the other part of the problem. So many people get nailed for things like drug possession or being at the wrong place at the wrong time, and their ability to be law-abiding citizens after that is wiped out because nobody will hire them. So of course they'll go on to live a life of crime.

It it was me, I would not hesitate to commit any crime necessary to survive. It's not like in other developed countries, where there's a social safety net I could use while getting back on my feet. Here, it's fight or die.

If there was a solid social safety net for most people if they needed it, and/or if there were more stringent laws on background checks and the scope of them permitted, the country would very likely be a much safer place.
Many of the people you're talking about have been taking advantage of the social safety nets for generations. In many cases that's all they know. There are few adults, especially males, in their neighborhoods who work at legitimate jobs. There go your role models.

You want an eye opener look at high school completion rates for Baltimore City Schools. That will give you an answer to a lot of your concerns right there. Baltimore City spends the most per pupil in the State and is in the top 10 for the entire country.

Background checks for what? If you mean firearms, MD has some of the strictest laws in the country. Do you really believe the people doing the shootings in the City had a background check done when they bought a gun? Really?
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Old 05-31-2015, 11:49 AM
 
Location: London
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Many of the people you're talking about have been taking advantage of the social safety nets for generations. In many cases that's all they know. There are few adults, especially males, in their neighborhoods who work at legitimate jobs. There go your role models.

You want an eye opener look at high school completion rates for Baltimore City Schools. That will give you an answer to a lot of your concerns right there. Baltimore City spends the most per pupil in the State and is in the top 10 for the entire country.

Background checks for what? If you mean firearms, MD has some of the strictest laws in the country. Do you really believe the people doing the shootings in the City had a background check done when they bought a gun? Really?
I mean pre-employment background checks (and credit checks for that matter).
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Old 05-31-2015, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Who is "us"? Are you one of the welfare recipients that she suggested to fix their own mess? You have to HAVE money to make money. Why should anyone give you the money to fix the damage so you can make a profit? What part did you do to earn that money? Any government money that is spent should be spent to fix the things that were broken that are owned or maintained by the government. If the insurance coverage on the business and personally owner buildings, cars, property doesn't cover the damage then the funds could possibly subsidize that repair. However, NO money should be given to anyone who didn't take precautions to protect their property. I don't care if it's fire, snow, sleet, riot or theft there is a reason why people have insurance. It's not reasonable for someone to have something broken, stolen or destroyed (whether they did it themselves or someone else did) to stick their hand out and expect someone else to handle it.

Are you suggesting "Stand Your Ground" as is so hotly contested in FLA due to Trayvon Martin? That won't fly here in the Socialist state of Maryland. The blue meanies ran Beretta out of the state and left us with 10 round mags. What protection do we have for ourselves? The police who are told to let the animals rage? I'm glad I am miles away from that crap. Baltimore is on my keep away list.
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Old 05-31-2015, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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They said the same thing before we raised awareness about the Police issue.


You don't know who's affiliated with who, public opinion, or who knows what. On a personal level, you don't even know the contacts I have.


You don't know what type of "Movement" it is, the demographics, or even how we intend on addressing certain issues.





So again, tell me all about this Movement you know so much about

Most of us are in the dark about it. Why don't you spill your guts in a dissertation, thesis style, and tell us all what it is all about. Dig deep into the depths of your all knowing brain.
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Old 05-31-2015, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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i think that 20 mil desperately needs to be spent on more officers and jails based on what's going on now:

Baltimore gets bloodier as arrests drop post-Freddie Gray

Good grief......
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Old 05-31-2015, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They said the same thing before we raised awareness about the Police issue.


You don't know who's affiliated with who, public opinion, or who knows what. On a personal level, you don't even know the contacts I have.


You don't know what type of "Movement" it is, the demographics, or even how we intend on addressing certain issues.





So again, tell me all about this Movement you know so much about
Well we found it that it's not the grassroots movement we were led to believe.
Paid protesters flown/bussed in to cause havoc. And now they are complaining because they didn't get paid.
Organizations funded by George Soros.

So yes, tell us what this great "movement" is about ?

Why is George Soros so interested in the plight of Black people vs the police ?
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