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Old 06-20-2015, 11:07 AM
 
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Maybe this wasn't a hate crime?
You sure are emotionally invested in ignoring the overwhelming evidence that this was a hate crime.

Why is that?

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In one image, the suspected gunman is posed on the beach wearing the same clothes he is seen wearing on surveillance footage as he entered the church on Wednesday. It is unclear if this image was taken the same day as the shooting, but if so, it would show that Roof took time to visit the beach, inscribe the racist symbol 1488 in the sand and photograph himself before allegedly traveling to Charleston.

The symbol 1488 is a number adopted by white supremacists, according to online sites that have also posted the number. The "88" refers to H, the eighth letter of the alphabet and is a symbol for "Heil Hitler." The "14" refers to this Nazi party mantra: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
Alleged Dylann Roof manifesto discovered online
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:12 AM
 
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You sure are emotionally invested in ignoring the overwhelming evidence that this was a hate crime.
I'm just interpreting what his friend said.
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:16 AM
 
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I'm just interpreting what his friend said.
Perhaps they weren't really as friendly as the friend thinks. I wouldn't consider the words of the "friend" over the words of the assailant himself.
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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Perhaps they weren't really as friendly as the friend thinks. I wouldn't consider the words of the "friend" over the words of the assailant himself.
Hard to tell...the assailant's actions could point toward mental instability.
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:29 AM
 
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Hard to tell...the assailant's actions could point toward mental instability.
bull, not insane or mentally ill at all. it was planned and calculated.
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:29 AM
 
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I'm just interpreting what his friend said.
well aren't you just the Little Lord Fauntleroy?

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Old 06-20-2015, 11:37 AM
 
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Maybe his friend is an idiot who cannot read other people's true intentions and/or separate them from what is coming out of their mouths.

I myself would not put much stock into what a few people who "knew" a person says. How many times have we heard "he was always such a nice person" used to describe serial killers?

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Old 06-20-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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Roof was trying to start a race war, probably enticing a radical Black person to retaliate so it goes back and forth until an all out guerrilla war develops.
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:39 AM
 
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I once had a 14-yr-old classmate who tortured and killed an infant for the fun of it, according to his confession. This dude was a walking time bomb in school. "Bullying" was him on a good day. He was violent and mean. I _could_not_believe_ that someone let him babysit their kids, let alone an infant! I was completely shocked.

Even the people who had seen this guy be violent in school turned out to the media saying there was no indication he was like this. I confronted them and they claimed no recollection of the events, such as him kicking the **** out of other kids in the hallway. The teacher who facilitated the discussion of the news story shushed me when I pointed out to these people that this dude had punched, kicked, bullied, etc. and they had personally witnessed it. I don't know why the teacher chose that to be the one unacceptable thing to say.

This kid had no real friends because of his behavior, but all of a sudden the other kids were saying he was their friend and was a nice person.

Then his neighbors were interviewed and they said he was peaceful and sweet. I seriously doubt that was true. He could barely make it through an hour w/o acting out in a major way. He had been expelled from several schools because of this.

My point is, there appears to be some sort of human shock reaction when things like this happen. Or maybe they just want in on the attention and say what they think will get them the most.
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Old 06-20-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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Hard to tell...the assailant's actions could point toward mental instability.
Of course, because as I said in another thread:

Muslim shooter = Terrorist
Black shooter = Thug/gang member
White shooter = Mentally ill

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