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Old 06-18-2015, 02:22 PM
 
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That doesn't make sense. Assuming she was 100 and born in say 1900, she would have married a 70 year old when she was 20?
She did, she was 19
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte
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There were pensions involved often enough, which led to these extreme age marriages. She could continue to draw has pension as a widow.
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Lake Nona
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No, the license plate was not blocked by the United States Supreme Court - it was blocked by the State of Texas.

Supporters of the plate then sued, claiming that their Constitutional rights were being violated by the State of Texas. The United States Supreme Court merely found that there is no freedom of speech on license plates, and so Texas could (not had to - could) decline to offer a license plate featuring the Confederate flag.

Frankly, it's sad that there are people who want that disgusting symbol of treason in the name of slavery. And, to the revisionist, yes, the southern states seceded because of slavery. We know this because the states took pains to state their grievances when they seceded, and those declarations of secession go on and on about preserving slavery as the reason behind their seceding. In the Cornerstone Speech, Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens explicitly stated as much, and I quote, "The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.". Further, the facts that the Confederacy put down a secession attempt in eastern Tennessee (which held a convention to secede from the Confederacy and rejoin the Union - only to be invaded by the Confederate Army) and included in its constitution a clause explicitly forbidden any state from ever outlawing slavery show beyond all doubt that the nonsense about states' rights was utter bunk that none of them ever believed (that was later historical revisionism invented by the mired-in-the-past Lost Causers).
Totally agree!!! I love it when this kind of topic comes up and you have certain people posting revisionist garbage like its fact. Like anyone has time to read that crap.
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Old 06-18-2015, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Poor choice of words. The Supreme Court did not block the symbol on the license plate. It simply allowed Texas to choose what it displayed on the plate. Texas chooses not to display a confederate flag or more specifically, a vanity plate for the Sons of Confederate Veterans that incorporates a confederate battle flag.

Symbols mean different things to different cultures. In the end its just some paint, dye, cloth or whatever. Its really not a big deal except to a few who seem easily outraged by a lot of things.

Exactly. That's what they do on NY, too.

Frankly, I don't understand what the big deal is. All they have to do is get one of those license plate frames that say anything--about the confederacy or being pro-life--or anything else. And they don't have to put more money in the state's coffers for vanity plates.
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Old 06-18-2015, 05:39 PM
 
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so much for the seperation of church and state. we allow religious symbols on our money so why arent they banned?
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:06 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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The Supreme Court did not block the symbol on the license plate. It simply allowed Texas to choose what it displayed on the plate.
The Supreme Court constructively banned the display of the SCV logo on Texas license plates - they knew what course of action would result from this ruling.

This is a blow to the First Amendment right to free speech, as it amounts to a Court endorsement of government censorship.
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:07 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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so much for the seperation of church and state.
The SCV is not a religious organization.
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:21 PM
 
Location: in the mountains
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Totally agree!!! I love it when this kind of topic comes up and you have certain people posting revisionist garbage like its fact. Like anyone has time to read that crap.

yes, we all know you don't have time to read history books because you're too busy playing video games
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Old 06-18-2015, 08:47 PM
 
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The Supreme Court constructively banned the display of the SCV logo on Texas license plates - they knew what course of action would result from this ruling.

This is a blow to the First Amendment right to free speech, as it amounts to a Court endorsement of government censorship.
They didn't constructively do anything. If the state board decided to accept a confederate flag plate, itd be right back on there. And it doesnt preclude other states that have them now from keeping it. You dont constructively know what youre talking about. What they are telling you is that license plate aint yours. Its the governments and that actually makes sense.
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Old 06-18-2015, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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yes, we all know you don't have time to read history books because you're too busy playing video games



It wasn't about slavery as much as it was about their economy. The south was agricultural whereas the north was industrial. Slaves were the machinery and the government tried to shut down their way of life. The USA is the only place where slavery/race ever became a huge divide - what did black slaves think of their black slave masters? Black Africans owned black slaves for ages. American Indians enslaved each other. The Moors of northern Africa enslaved white Europeans. The British enslaved the Irish. The Japanese made slaves of just about every nation they invaded, especially the Chinese.

Is slavery moral? Not to me. Then again, I was born in the 20th century, my family never owned slaves, I've never met a slave or slave owner so the point is moot. A dog is enough for me and they is expensive.
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