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Old 06-28-2015, 10:31 PM
 
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THAT ^ makes no sense
Which part can you not understand?

Rights do not require input, expense, or work of another person. Ruling that HC is a right fails all three unless we are preventing something like a person applying band-aids (they buy, they apply, no one else needed) to themselves.
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Old 06-28-2015, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Which part can you not understand?

Rights do not require input, expense, or work of another person. Ruling that HC is a right fails all three unless we are preventing something like a person applying band-aids (they buy, they apply, no one else needed) to themselves.
This > "Rights do not require input, expense, or work of another person is just nonsensical."

I have the right to a trial by my peers- that requires a judge to manage the trial and jurors willing to participate.

I have a right to petition the government for redress. That requires a government body with the capability of acting on my petition.

I have a right to vote but it requires poll workers and election officials for me to exercise that right.

Should I keep going?
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Old 06-29-2015, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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This > "Rights do not require input, expense, or work of another person is just nonsensical."

I have the right to a trial by my peers- that requires a judge to manage the trial and jurors willing to participate.

I have a right to petition the government for redress. That requires a government body with the capability of acting on my petition.

I have a right to vote but it requires poll workers and election officials for me to exercise that right.

Should I keep going?
Great nations that care about their citizens make it a right. Call it a national right.
It's a three legged stool. Great nations Provide for defense, economy and health of the citizen through a mutually beneficial system of contribution and support.
It is what it is.

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Old 06-29-2015, 06:21 AM
 
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This > "Rights do not require input, expense, or work of another person is just nonsensical."

I have the right to a trial by my peers- that requires a judge to manage the trial and jurors willing to participate.

I have a right to petition the government for redress. That requires a government body with the capability of acting on my petition.

I have a right to vote but it requires poll workers and election officials for me to exercise that right.

Should I keep going?
Fair enough, can I get my Porsche to exercise my free travel?
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Old 06-29-2015, 07:20 AM
 
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Fair enough, can I get my Porsche to exercise my free travel?
what does a Porsche have to do with this discussion?
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:02 AM
 
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I'm glad the ACA was upheld, but I sure hope I never have to enroll. The cost would be prohibitive. I hope my employer and DHs keep on offering truly affordable healthcare options.

(The annual premium cost for DH and I on the Silver Plan would be $14,612 per year with a maximum out of pocket of $13,200. How is that remotely "affordable?!?)
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Old 06-29-2015, 08:53 AM
 
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I'm glad the ACA was upheld, but I sure hope I never have to enroll. The cost would be prohibitive. I hope my employer and DHs keep on offering truly affordable healthcare options.

(The annual premium cost for DH and I on the Silver Plan would be $14,612 per year with a maximum out of pocket of $13,200. How is that remotely "affordable?!?)
It's affordable if you live in a cardboard box!
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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The End Of ObamaCare


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjpJqcM3X94
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Old 06-29-2015, 10:15 AM
 
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I'm glad the ACA was upheld, but I sure hope I never have to enroll. The cost would be prohibitive. I hope my employer and DHs keep on offering truly affordable healthcare options.

(The annual premium cost for DH and I on the Silver Plan would be $14,612 per year with a maximum out of pocket of $13,200. How is that remotely "affordable?!?)
Wait until the Cadillac tax starts!

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Old 06-29-2015, 03:22 PM
 
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what does a Porsche have to do with this discussion?
If the government is subsidizing healthcare, I want my subsidized Porsche.
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