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Old 06-25-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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You can't polish a turd. The only way to improve it will be to abolish it.
And go back to the horrendous system we had before?
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Old 06-25-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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And go back to the horrendous system we had before?
At least THAT was affordable
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Old 06-25-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: SDL/PDX/RDU
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This means nothing. I will now support the GOP to cancel this law in total. They will start by defunding it.
I'd be more impressed if you put your energy toward improving the law rather than dismantling it.
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Old 06-25-2015, 12:22 PM
 
Location: SC
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No way single payer will pass now. ACA has made the insurers too powerful. Huge profits and money to bribe the politicians will prevail. This decision has solidified ACA and will now even prevent Republicans from fighting against it.
Single payer is dead.
I'm not so sure about that. Just about anything is possible - if we (citizens) use our power instead of letting politicians do what they want.

The real question is, do Americans have the guts and stamina to fight for what they want?
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Old 06-25-2015, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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People now have access to a health insurance card tied to a huge deductible. Does that necessarily equal health care?
My bronze plan costs 1K per month covers no ilness until 6K in deductibles is paid. This bad policy is now cemented in place due to this ruling.
Thanks for nothing.
I agree, bummed as well. I new it would prevail its a win win fot insurance companies and we will forever be a for profit heath care system. Mandates and all.
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Old 06-25-2015, 12:26 PM
 
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I'd be more impressed if you put your energy toward improving the law rather than dismantling it.
Thank you for saying that!

My Congressman rails against the ACA over and over. But what did he do to improve it, or offer as an alternative?

<NOTHING>

I am really sick of people bitching because we have made some attempt to provide affordable care for everyone. I was very tired of my health care dollars paying for people who abused the system, went to the emergency room for a sore throat, and stuck the rest of us with a bill for thousands of dollars over a $50 item. The new plan provides care for everyone, at a price which is affordable.

Some people are just disgruntled because they have to pay for what they receive now, instead of getting a free ride. (Personally, I don't really care whether YOU have health insurance or not as long as you don't continue to expect "society" to pay for it. Show up at the doctor, plop down the cash, or get shown the door. I am dying to see the look on some parent's face when junior drops dead in front of them from a bee sting because they chose not to have health care).

For those who are still disgruntled, have at it. The process is simple: All you need to do is come up with a plan which covers everyone from the indigent to the very wealthy, covers 320 Million people without exception, and provides for ever possible scenario. How difficult can that be?

Oh, and even if only 1% of those people are dissatisfied with your solution, expect to have THREE MILLION emails explaining why your solution is horrible and you are an idiot.

After you answer the three million emails and provide a workable, affordable solution to each of them, you can come on CD and complain about how some people are just never happy.
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Old 06-25-2015, 12:29 PM
 
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I'm not so sure about that. Just about anything is possible - if we (citizens) use our power instead of letting politicians do what they want.

The real question is, do Americans have the guts and stamina to fight for what they want?
I disagree. Too much money, too much bribery, too many whoring politicians on both sides of the aisle.
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Old 06-25-2015, 12:31 PM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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Democrats certainly sold out the American people to benefit the Insurance companies.
This is a huge Tax Bill that will keep sucking us dry for years to come.

Democrats do love their Taxes.
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Old 06-25-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Democrats certainly sold out the American people to benefit the Insurance companies.
This is a huge Tax Bill that will keep sucking us dry for years to come.

Democrats do love their Taxes.
I wish they'd just pick one or the other, are we capitalist or socialist. This middle of the road prevents either from working properly so we get screwed every time.
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Old 06-25-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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Thank you for saying that!

My Congressman rails against the ACA over and over. But what did he do to improve it, or offer as an alternative?

<NOTHING>

I am really sick of people bitching because we have made some attempt to provide affordable care for everyone. I was very tired of my health care dollars paying for people who abused the system, went to the emergency room for a sore throat, and stuck the rest of us with a bill for thousands of dollars over a $50 item. The new plan provides care for everyone, at a price which is affordable.

Some people are just disgruntled because they have to pay for what they receive now, instead of getting a free ride. (Personally, I don't really care whether YOU have health insurance or not as long as you don't continue to expect "society" to pay for it. Show up at the doctor, plop down the cash, or get shown the door. I am dying to see the look on some parent's face when junior drops dead in front of them from a bee sting because they chose not to have health care).

For those who are still disgruntled, have at it. The process is simple: All you need to do is come up with a plan which covers everyone from the indigent to the very wealthy, covers 320 Million people without exception, and provides for ever possible scenario. How difficult can that be?

Oh, and even if only 1% of those people are dissatisfied with your solution, expect to have THREE MILLION emails explaining why your solution is horrible and you are an idiot.

After you answer the three million emails and provide a workable, affordable solution to each of them, you can come on CD and complain about how some people are just never happy.

The solution is simple. Hospitals and emergency rooms should not be required to treat anyone unable to pay. There should be a triage nurse that looks at the patient and either admits or denies them entry into the facility. That is the way a MASH unit works.
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