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Old 07-04-2015, 07:48 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Bernie Sanders proposes a 1 trillion dollar infrastructure package to repair the country's crumbling roads, bridges and ports, to be paid for by a small transaction tax on wall street speculation. Sounds good to me!
Aren't those the "shovel ready jobs" that the stimulus money was printed on and spent? How many times do we need to appropriated (print) $$$$$$$$$$$$$ for a job to actually happen?
Oh I know, only in election years...
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Old 07-04-2015, 07:49 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Wait? We are going to blame the entire government for that in a capitalistic system? Am I missing something?

I am all for government intervention in the US economy to maintain wage equality, safety regulations, domestic growth, and generally equitable and beneficial business practices, but that seems to send your average laissez-faire loving American into a tailspin of socialistic rage.



That makes two of us. The man will never get elected, but boy do I love his candor and genuineness. If the country could only get past these aversions to "socialism" I think that he could do so much good.
Yeppers, working soooo well in Europe!
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Old 07-04-2015, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The few right-wingers who do believe the numbers... try to give the GOP credit for it! Pick a lane, please.

Congressional Republicans have done nothing but obstruct for 5 years, our economy is growing DESPITE them.
Wrong again....our economy is growing because the obstructionists have forced the deficit down. Just remember how bad the economy, deficit, unemployment was when Obama, nancy & Harry ran things...horrible and the 2 years previous when harry & Nancy ran the House & Senate and Bush was not obstructionist enough to prevent them crashing the economy. Last time our economy was really strong, coincidentally we had a Republican President, House & Senate.
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Old 07-04-2015, 09:31 AM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
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The unemployment rate is down because more people have finally accepted the point that the artificial advantage to which Americans had become accustomed is gone for good. That is a point that libertarians and conservatives have been emphasizing for years, but the RINOs don't have the guts to admit it, and the Democrats don't have any strategy other than to beat the worn-out drums of class warfare and "income redistribution". And the real riffraff -- Sharpton, Kucinich, Dean, Sanders, and their simple-minded following -- just get more vicious every day.

When the other shoe drops, Mr. Obama should have some real explaining to do; but we all know who he and his Chicago gangsta cronies will try to blame.

Conservatives AND Liberals engage in class warfare, but they speak to different constituencies. Liberals rile up blacks, Latinos and liberal white women. Conservatives speak to white men and tell them that all their problems derive from entitled minorities. Both have truth, but are mostly incorrect.

It's not big government OR big business. It's BIG GOVERNMENT AND BIG BUSINESS. The two cannot be separated.
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Old 07-04-2015, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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. Last time our economy was really strong, coincidentally we had a Republican President, House & Senate.

Last year (2007) Republicans controlled the Senate, House and President, the deficit was 161 Billion and average unemployment was 4.6%.

Last year Democrats controlled the Senate, House, & President, the deficit was $1.4 Trillion and the unemployment rate averaged 8.9%

When the Dems controlled both branches of Congress in Bush last 2 years, they drove the economy into serious recession and then made it worse when they controlled all 3 branches in Obama's 1st 2 years of being President.

Some of you Liberals might not understand that a deficit of $161 Billion is much lower than $1.4 Trillion and you won't trust me but go ask your math professor about those numbers.
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Old 07-04-2015, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Last year (2007) Republicans controlled the Senate, House and President, the deficit was 161 Billion and average unemployment was 4.6%.
How funny that you conveniently forgot to mention that the great recession officially started in December of 2007 I doubt if very many people are anxious to go back to THOSE 'good old days" any time soon
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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How funny that you conveniently forgot to mention that the great recession officially started in December of 2007 I doubt if very many people are anxious to go back to THOSE 'good old days" any time soon
I would happily go back to the days of deficits 9 times smaller and unemployment half of what they were when Dems ran everything.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:25 AM
 
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I would happily go back to the days of deficits 9 times smaller and unemployment half of what they were when Dems ran everything.
Even if it means 1/3 of the Nation's wealth evaporating at the end of that year?
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:32 AM
 
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Even if it means 1/3 of the Nation's wealth evaporating at the end of that year?
We elected the Dems to take over the House and Senate in 2007, not a coincidence that we then went into recession and investors like me pulled our money out of the stock market and the it fell. Then with Dems running the House, Senate and then all 3 branches, they dragged out the recession and ballooned the deficit. When harry, Nancy, & Barack decide to borrow Trillions from the Chinese to give to their rich fat cat buddies on Wall Street as payout for electing him, I jumped back in and made a fortune again.

Bottom line is, when Republicans ran all 3 branches, we had low deficit and unemployment, then when Dems ran the House & Senate, everything got worse and worse still when Dems controlled everything. Only after electing Republican Congress has the economy started a slow steady improvement.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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We elected the Dems to take over the House and Senate in 2007, not a coincidence that we then went into recession and investors like me pulled our money out of the stock market and the it fell. Then with Dems running the House, Senate and then all 3 branches, they dragged out the recession and ballooned the deficit. When harry, Nancy, & Barack decide to borrow Trillions from the Chinese to give to their rich fat cat buddies on Wall Street as payout for electing him, I jumped back in and made a fortune again.

Bottom line is, when Republicans ran all 3 branches, we had low deficit and unemployment, then when Dems ran the House & Senate, everything got worse and worse still when Dems controlled everything. Only after electing Republican Congress has the economy started a slow steady improvement.
YOU can't have it both ways - this was YOUR post and YOUR claim, make up your mind please

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Last year (2007) Republicans controlled the Senate, House and President, the deficit was 161 Billion and average unemployment was 4.6%.
Best thing to do is pick a theory and make sure reality doesn't get in the way of it before you post it
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