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Old 07-05-2015, 08:02 PM
Location: Japan
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Originally Posted by John1960 View Post
Land of the free ... to move to another country? A recent poll of 2,000 adults concluded that 35% of Americans would consider quitting the US and living abroad. That number jumps to 55% in the 18 to 34 demographic, per the poll by Transferwise, a UK-based money transfer service.

Survey says: 35 percent of Americans would expatriate
You would prefer not being free to move to another country if you wanted to? Being willing to consider moving if the right opportunity presented itself is unreasonable?

Old 07-05-2015, 08:07 PM
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I would leave the U.S. and it would have nothing to do with the current state of politics or the economy. I would leave for so that I could experience a different way of life, different topography, and for the pure sense of adventure, and I don't think that I am alone in that regard.

Of the twenty some odd countries, I can think of at least five that I would be interested in relocating to, at least two in eastern Europe, one province in Canada, and two countries in South and Central America.
Old 07-05-2015, 08:08 PM
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I always wanted to retire to Mexico but that was before I had grandchildren.
Old 07-05-2015, 08:16 PM
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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If I could find a job that enabled to me to live better than I do, heck yeah I'd take it, who wouldn't?

The world is becoming more globalized. Living nice in one country is about the same as living nice in another and that's what younger people realize and probably why their numbers are higher. I lived in Mexico for 6 months and my fiance lived in England for something like 8 months. We both liked it. Other countries are not hell-holes. I used to think so. Before I ever left the U.S., I used to think that we had the best country in the world in terms of the best, newest and shiniest infrastructure. Not true and I was quite surprised. Compare the subway system of Boston to the train system in Hong Kong, for example. Boston had some of the most advanced infrastructure in the world.... around 1910.

I looked into moving to Finland when I thought I had a job opportunity there but it fell apart. Generally speaking, foriegn employers prioritize their own nationals for jobs so it's not exactly easy to get decent jobs abroad from non-American sources.

On the other hand, there's the issue of feeling and being "at home" which you never quite get abroad. Even when you speak the language (I know Spanish) - there are little tics that you don't get; you're never quite one of them even when they accept you. Plus I just never got into soccer (football). No matter how hard I tried... yeah just don't like it. That was a problem making male friends my age in Mexico. Knowing how to navigate the culture effortlessly is worth something. Heck I don't quite feel at home outside my home state - which I haven't lived in for 3 years but it still feels kind of like I'm on vacation.

Usually, jobs overseas for Americans will pay a middle class wage by their standards which means living a lot lower. I have to say though, that in my experience EVERY country does health care better than the U.S. Every single country I've been to where I've had any contact with doctors or even just talked to people about their health care - it is not as much of a cluster as it is here in the U.S. In England it worked much better. In Mexico it worked much better. And cheaper.
Old 07-05-2015, 08:35 PM
Location: california
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Some time back there was an article about the wealthy leaving ,
fact is if you've that kind of money, then you have enough influence in another country to do what you want.
Seems to me too that the there was a small country trying to establish it's self in Europe particularly liberal socially.
I hate getting old .I remember pieces of info, but any way , if you do the searching something should come up.
Old 07-05-2015, 08:44 PM
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I have visited a few foreign countries in my life. Most of them were nice places to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. London is amazing, but very expensive. Berlin was nice, too. I loved Uruguay and Argentina, the dollar does further there. Chinese food in China, did not taste as good as Chinese food in America (personal taste).

The USA is home. I wish we did not have all GMO food. Don't lecture me about it. It is my personal preference.
Old 07-05-2015, 09:28 PM
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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There are 2 basic situations under which an American moves to another country. On the negative side, he dislikes life in America. On the positive side, he knows it's a great big interesting world out there with lots of cultures to learn about. I lived in Thailand for 2 years after retiring (and not for the reason so men do) and I loved every minute of discovery over there. I was never homesick, although at times I would run across photos or articles about places in America I wished I had visited.

And then the riots hit. Martial law was declared. Black smoke billowed down my street when the rioters burned about 30 major buildings. It was so nice to be able to come home to America and feel a bit more in control of my life.

But it was never about disliking America. It was all about liking the attributes of another country...at least for a while.
Old 07-05-2015, 09:59 PM
Location: Vallejo
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So what.

I did for about a year and a half. Especially if you're young, why wouldn't you consider doing something like that if you had the opportunity? Just because you want to go abroad and live in another country and experience different things and broaden your horizons is no reflection on America being a horrible place. Actually, the only reflection of it being a horrible place is how closed-minded some, although certainly not all by any means, Americans are. Ugh, ugh Me American. 'Merica so good no one should ever want to experience nothin' else. Grow up. It's a big world out there. If you're in a position to, go out and enjoy it. It never was my intention to permanently reside in either Europe or Asia, but I'm glad I did it and I'd do it again.

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Old 07-05-2015, 10:35 PM
Location: Riverside County / Maricopa County
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Old 07-05-2015, 11:47 PM
Location: USA
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I don't see why not. We're a globalized world and economy now. One should be able to move wherever there is opportunity. The days of staying in your small home town and hoping to make it is over.
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