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Old 07-08-2015, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Pahrump, NV
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In Fogle's case, rabbis.
completely off topic, but i read this a little too quickly.... i saw "rabbits", not "rabbis"

carry on
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:31 AM
 
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Im not defending him but just because you receive a package does not mean you are guilty of something.
Agree. Taylor may be setting him up to get a lighter sentence. I think that Taylor had access to his computers as well. I doubt he would run a child porn ring. Jmo.
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Old 07-08-2015, 12:33 AM
 
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completely off topic, but i read this a little too quickly.... i saw "rabbits", not "rabbis"

carry on
The poster likes to keep it kosher. Jmo. Lol. Just joking.
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Old 07-08-2015, 01:50 AM
 
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Default Jared brings home the bacon, compliments of Subway

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Where can I sign up to do a dorky TV commercial?


No kidding. I can do that commercial so much better, for only 10 million! (I presently am on sale). Compared to Jared's 15 million, it is worth thinking about! Call me, Subway.
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Old 07-08-2015, 02:55 AM
 
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No kidding. I can do that commercial so much better, for only 10 million! (I presently am on sale). Compared to Jared's 15 million, it is worth thinking about! Call me, Subway.
Agree. He had no spunk for someone who lost 200lbs. Plus no personality as well. He is not a motivator imo.

Plus how do they know that subway and excercises was all he did to lose the weight?

Give me 5 mil and keep the 10. Plus how can an obesity coach and subway advocate allow himself to gain that much weight back while still getting paid to advocate weight loss. I know he gets royalties. But still. They should have let him go once the pounds started coming back. Jmo.

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Old 07-08-2015, 04:53 AM
 
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Agree. Taylor may be setting him up to get a lighter sentence. I think that Taylor had access to his computers as well. I doubt he would run a child porn ring. Jmo.
I have to question, why would Taylor lie, pointing the finger at Jared, UNLESS he had something on Jared. Think about it, Taylor is in the pokie and says, "Yeah, Jared the Subway guy, did this, this and this.(drugs, child porn, meth lab, etc.---whatever reason they are combing Jared's home) "Now, if I give you some hot information on him, can you reduce my sentence?"

I think it goes deeper. They are in Jared's house, on Jared's computer, the FBI is at his house. Not Barney Fife but the F.B.I. This sounds serious, no matter what is in Jared's house. (if anything).

If and I say "if" Jared was found to have child porn, wouldn't you want him to be punished? Or, by the same token, if Jared is innocent, wouldn't you want him to be able to move on with his life?
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Old 07-08-2015, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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A few years ago Chris Andersen of the Denver Nuggets had his house raided due to allegations of child porn, never arrested just questioned, he ended up out of the NBA for almost a full year while the FBI investigated, lost endorsements, and took a huge hit to his rep. His only crime was opening an email from a girl he thought was 22 that turned out to be 17 and that email had a semi-nude picture of her. It was all part of a fishing scam trying to blackmail him, but it killed his rep and almost destroyed his career.

It is unfortunate that just an allegation is enough to destroy people, even after the truth comes out people do not care the allegation is enough.
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Old 07-08-2015, 06:00 AM
 
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But wouldn't it be nice if law enforcement didn't feel this need to make a huge day time drama out of searches
I'm missing some information here. How did law enforcement make this a huge daytime drama?
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Old 07-08-2015, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Means exactly what I said.. They found nothing on scene. The scouring back at the FBI lab will dig deeper.. But, only so much. They're not going to invest the same time and money on this that they might a terrorism investigation, I wouldn't think. And recovering shredded files requires ALOT of time and money. I'm not talking the simple "Hit delete and empty recycle bin".. We're talking overwriting the file with random data 35 times.. "Gutmann Method". Had they found a folder on the desktop with gigs of child porn, he'd have been immediately arrested. So, we know that didn't happen.

Then we could get into the whole encryption thing.. It could take weeks or longer to break encryption, and there's some they cannot break. There's cases where people have actually been arrested for contempt for not giving their passwords over because LE couldn't break their encryption. In general, nowadays.. This is weird, but true.. Most courts agree that the 5th amendment protects you from having to give authorities your passwords.. HOWEVER.. Biometrics, such as a fingerprint, are not protected. So, if you lock your iPhone with a fingerprint, you can be compelled to unlock it.. But if you use a password, you cannot be compelled to give that. Ah, America, you're a strange old bird, aren't you?

Here's the thing.. If this is a situation where his former charity director fingered him.. And it is a false accusation.. The FBI will come back with a "We have an obligation to investigate.." line.. But, people are already seeing that the damage is done. So, they would have a tough road with that, because what evidence the guy gave them will come out, and if it's at all sketchy ("he said..." type thing) then they will, probably rightfully so, be heavily criticized. Which will probably affect future investigations. They went in too publicly with this, I think. Typical of police in this day and age. Possibly the smarter thing to do.. Send in 4 agents, all in a plain car.. 2 monitor the perimeter of the house, 2 knock and serve warrant.. It's kept quiet.. If it's all bullcrap, noone knows. If it's not, then you have your big press conference. What was served by having so many people at that search, other than publicity? This was done with so many people, at least partially, knowing that it'd hit the news wire.

It's a real problem with a situation like this.. On one hand, you can agree with them that the investigation needs to happen, but if the evidence is at all sketchy, knowing that it will destroy a life.. Where does that balance lie? It's simple to say "Whatever is necessary when children are at risk".. But.. The accused is at risk as well.. And, if it is a 'simple' possession case.. There's arguments to be made here.

I hold to the innocent until proven guilty.. So, right now, I think of him as innocent. Does it all make me raise an eyebrow? Yep.. Could that opinion change? Yep.

One note.. We're all assuming that this is a child porn investigation.. It's also possible that whatever the director's name was fingered him as a drug kingpin or something.. after all, they had dogs there.. Seems to me that dogs can't necessarily sniff out data. Perhaps looking for hidden compartments or something? But.. In general, you think dogs, you think drugs. The feds have said nothing.. The child porn has been assumed by everyone.. Though, I do think local police said something about it.
There's no assuming anything. The Indiana Internet Crimes Against Children task force is the lead agency in the investigation. The warrants served were in regards to a child porn investigation. According to the local news here in Indy, the dogs were specially trained dogs that can sniff out hidden microSD cards. Every news station here is reporting that it was part of a child porn investigation.

Federal, state agents raid home of Subway spokesperson Jared Fog - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

It was also briefly mentioned on another local station that, according to family, Jared has remained in touch with the former director of his foundation that was arrest on child porn charges. They could just be looking for more information about him. According to the Indianapolis Business Journal, Subway has said it believes the investigation is related to a former employee of the Jared Foundation. Federal authorities did get an extension to August 3 to build a case against the former director of the foundation so this could very well just be part of that.

Investigators raid home of Subway promotor Fogle | 2015-07-07 | Indianapolis Business Journal | IBJ.com
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Old 07-08-2015, 06:41 AM
 
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Innocence or guilt doesn't matter at this point. Jared is finished.
The finger was pointed.
"Witch!" was screamed.
Subway will soon hang him.

He's a fool if he didn't save a ton of money to fall back on. Certainly he couldn't expect to be Subway's spokesperson for the rest of his life.
They may as well tattoo his forehead "CHILD MOLESTER" after this.

Maybe he brought this on himself by not cooperating sooner, who knows.
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