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Old 07-26-2015, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Republicans really are such idiots. They want to cut things like this that truly benefit the needy in our society, but yet want to spend massive amounts of money on the military industrial complex, and fight tooth and nail against any tiny cut that is proposed to that side of things.
Sure there is some fraud in SSDI, but it miniscule in amount to what is flat out wasted in so many other areas- such as military.

We need to keep our money for ourselves, helping our own people- sure iron out the fraud issues that do exist, but bump UP the budget for this and other programs to help our own people, while cutting money that goes to absolutely worthless things like blowing up 3rd world countries.
yes, yes and yes
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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Yes, That's what Republican Conservatives want to DO, investigate ALL the FRAUD in ALL the Federal Government PROGAMS Period. It would SAVE Americans Money and Produce More Jobs to have a FRAUD DEPT.

We MUST DEMAND the FRAUD to be looked into, HIRE MORE people into this matter by FLOODING Calls and Emails to OUR Senators, Governors, and REPS. (The Senators are the MOST Important, since it's the Senate in Congress that are the WEAK ones and 'the do nothings' and most of the time AGAINST the American People, but with a Republican MAJORITY it's could be a win.

Although Hiring more people to investigate FRAUD will cost taxpayers, it will pay for itself and then some left over. Over time the Dept. can shrink if that is necessary.
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:27 PM
 
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Yes, That's what Republican Conservatives want to DO, investigate ALL the FRAUD in ALL the Federal Government PROGAMS Period. It would SAVE Americans Money and Produce More Jobs to have a FRAUD DEPT. We MUST DEMAND the FRAUD to be looked into, HIRE MORE people into this matter by FLOODING Calls and Emails to OUR Senators, Governors, and REPS. (The Senators are the MOST Important, since it's the Senate in Congress that are the WEAK ones and 'the do nothings' and most of the time AGAINST the American People, but with a Republican MAJORITY it's could be a win.Although Hiring more people to investigate FRAUD will cost taxpayers, it will pay for itself and then some left over. Over time the Dept. can shrink if that is necessary.
you are dreaming...they only look into the fraud that interests them like social programs. When is the last time they investigated the widespread fraud in military procurement, or the legitimacy of some of the mega churches receiving tax exempt non-profit status while they buy jet planes for their pastors? where were the investigations when the banks were playing roulette with our money and stole 1/3 of our wealth?
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yes, That's what Republican Conservatives want to DO, investigate ALL the FRAUD in ALL the Federal Government PROGAMS Period. It would SAVE Americans Money and Produce More Jobs to have a FRAUD DEPT.

We MUST DEMAND the FRAUD to be looked into, HIRE MORE people into this matter by FLOODING Calls and Emails to OUR Senators, Governors, and REPS. (The Senators are the MOST Important, since it's the Senate in Congress that are the WEAK ones and 'the do nothings' and most of the time AGAINST the American People, but with a Republican MAJORITY it's could be a win.

Although Hiring more people to investigate FRAUD will cost taxpayers, it will pay for itself and then some left over. Over time the Dept. can shrink if that is necessary.
The FCC did it without the need to hire lots of people.
They saved us $1billion a year by doing and audit and kicking people out of the program that didn't qualify.
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Yes, That's what Republican Conservatives want to DO, investigate ALL the FRAUD in ALL the Federal Government PROGAMS Period. It would SAVE Americans Money and Produce More Jobs to have a FRAUD DEPT.

We MUST DEMAND the FRAUD to be looked into, HIRE MORE people into this matter by FLOODING Calls and Emails to OUR Senators, Governors, and REPS. (The Senators are the MOST Important, since it's the Senate in Congress that are the WEAK ones and 'the do nothings' and most of the time AGAINST the American People, but with a Republican MAJORITY it's could be a win.

Although Hiring more people to investigate FRAUD will cost taxpayers, it will pay for itself and then some left over. Over time the Dept. can shrink if that is necessary.
Hey, maybe the IRS can do this?
Go to a flat tax which would almost wipe out the need for that department so re-task those employees to fraud investigation.
Of course we'd have to put in safeguards so they investigate everyone instead of just non-profits/conservatives...
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:43 PM
 
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The FCC did it without the need to hire lots of people.
They saved us $1billion a year by doing and audit and kicking people out of the program that didn't qualify.
It wasn't a 'fraud investigation' they instituted new verification procedures Millions Improperly Claimed U.S. Phone Subsidies - WSJ
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It wasn't a 'fraud investigation' they instituted new verification procedures Millions Improperly Claimed U.S. Phone Subsidies - WSJ
The FCC didn't just decide to to that on their own out of the blue.
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Old 07-26-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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you are dreaming...they only look into the fraud that interests them like social programs. When is the last time they investigated the widespread fraud in military procurement, or the legitimacy of some of the mega churches receiving tax exempt non-profit status while they buy jet planes for their pastors? where were the investigations when the banks were playing roulette with our money and stole 1/3 of our wealth?
Um, who has controlled the dept. of justice the last 6+ years?

It's really really funny that you guys think there is any real difference between the two parties.

Creflo Dollar, the minister that wanted the 65million jet isn't exactly a bastion of republican voters either lol yet somehow it's those darn republicans that won't investigate him lol.....

Neither party is going to anger AARP and their many elderly voters but it's important to try to make it sound like the OTHER party is out to get their social security. That's one of the most tired old political scare tactics around.
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/us...-say.html?_r=0

What do you think? If this happens, I feel bad for those who truly need it to survive.
It would be smarter to cut off the people who don't really need it. Right there you'd have a better than 20% cut. You might even be able to raise the benefits of the truly needy!
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Old 07-26-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Forest bathing
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As far as SSI or the supplemental income (differing from SSA and SSDI) is concerned, that income source needs to be investigated. When immigrants bring over their aged parents who have contributed zilch to our country can receive almost as much as I do from SSA which I contributed to from 16-62 then something is wrong. They have to be supported by their immigrant children but after five years can collect SSI plus housing vouchers, Medicaid, food stamps, farmers market vouchers, other taxpayer funded benefits. Why????? I would rather our own citizens benefit. But, then don't get me started on illegal wars and the corporatacratic welfare.
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