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Old 07-24-2015, 11:39 AM
Status: "Just livin' day by day" (set 24 days ago)
 
Location: USA
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What do you think? If this happens, I feel bad for those who truly need it to survive.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:25 PM
 
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It won't happen.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:27 PM
Status: "Just livin' day by day" (set 24 days ago)
 
Location: USA
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It won't happen.
What makes you say that?
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It won't happen. They will move money from the SS fund over to the SSDI fund and call it a day.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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I would really like to see more done with fraudulent claims. I have seen SO many instances of people who work under the table making more money than many other workers. I lived in an interesting area where it seemed to be over-the-line and it doesn't seem that what I saw was unusual: Facilitating Fraud: How SSDI Gives Benefits to the Able Bodied | Cato Institute

Before they borrow from SS, they need to take a good and hard look at other options.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I would really like to see more done with fraudulent claims. I have seen SO many instances of people who work under the table making more money than many other workers. I lived in an interesting area where it seemed to be over-the-line and it doesn't seem that what I saw was unusual: Facilitating Fraud: How SSDI Gives Benefits to the Able Bodied | Cato Institute

Before they borrow from SS, they need to take a good and hard look at other options.
It's not just people it's also judges. Takes 3 denials and then you go in front of a judge.
You have some judges with a 99% approval rate on SSDI petitions.

And historically SSDI spikes during economic downturns with job losses.
And this time is especially bad because they changed the rules for what qualifies which added more subjective disabilities. More than 50% of claims are for mental impairments.

For some it has become long term unemployment until SS kicks in.
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Old 07-24-2015, 01:12 PM
Status: "Just livin' day by day" (set 24 days ago)
 
Location: USA
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I would really like to see more done with fraudulent claims. I have seen SO many instances of people who work under the table making more money than many other workers. I lived in an interesting area where it seemed to be over-the-line and it doesn't seem that what I saw was unusual: Facilitating Fraud: How SSDI Gives Benefits to the Able Bodied | Cato Institute

Before they borrow from SS, they need to take a good and hard look at other options.
Yes, more needs to be done as to what qualifies as a disability to help reduce fraudulent claims.

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It's not just people it's also judges. Takes 3 denials and then you go in front of a judge.
You have some judges with a 99% approval rate on SSDI petitions.

And historically SSDI spikes during economic downturns with job losses.
And this time is especially bad because they changed the rules for what qualifies which added more subjective disabilities. More than 50% of claims are for mental impairments.

For some it has become long term unemployment until SS kicks in.
Anything can be considered a disability it seems these days with the right resources.
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Old 07-24-2015, 01:36 PM
 
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I think more of the elderly than the disabled. My Mom worked her entire adult life and is supposed to live on $1100 and change a month SS + a $400 monthly pension. Jobs for women in the 60's and 70's didn't pay much, so her SS isn't much as it is.
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Old 07-24-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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With the Republicans on this one. It's time to start addressing entitlement problems rather than just kicking the can down the road by robbing this to pay that, robbing this to boost the economy, and all this garbage. Raise the payroll taxes, cut SSDI, cut SSI (Retirement). Figure it out with some combination of the above. If you can't do that, cut discretionary spending and bailout the SSDI fund that way as a stopgap measure until you can.
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Old 07-24-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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It won't happen.

Well it had better happen, especially since there's been an ongoing raiding of the SS retirement fund to accommodate it.
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