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Old 07-26-2015, 09:32 AM
 
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Nicely done Barack.. lets hope the next Democrat President can continue your success.


To blindly accept those numbers as being accurate or reflective of our actual current economic situation is mindboggling.
I also like how the Obama troll only included the positive spin, leaving out any of the current and future time bombs awaiting us. There is a very good reason he delayed implementation of certain aspects of Obamacare until he left office.
I wonder why the OP didn't include actual unemployment numbers reflective on how low the workforce participation really is. Those people of course are no longer counted as unemployed, yet they are out there without a job.
The national debt of course continues to grow unabated, but many koolaid drinkers are too stupid or partisan to realize the bill is coming due. I think many of them actually confuse the debt with budget deficits. When interest rates tick up just a bit, you had better have a large nest egg built up, because things are going to get ugly.

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Old 07-26-2015, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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Of course your post is ridiculous in that it tries to point to Obama as some sort of savior. No one believes that, and your figures only show that Obama took over right after the real estate crash - nothing else.

Fact is, fewer people work today, they make less, and more people are on welfare than during the Bush administration.
And that's why the Democrats can't find a candidate to run for president.
Well if there's one thing that the Republicans have, it's candidates. None of them are any good, but they sure have a lot of them.
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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The vast majority of the analysts and experts will agree that it typically takes 6-8 yrs for a presidents efforts to be reflected, due to the time it takes to implement his policies....so i guess we should be giving credit to Pres Bush for those numbers....good job on the research tho
Cute comeback, but people on your side of the aisle say -- over and over again -- Obama has been in office for 6 years. When is it gonna be "his economy". Stop blaming Bush.

You can't have it both ways.
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:11 AM
 
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Any economic statistics in the U.S. go far beyond any presidential policies. We are part of a global market, and issues like Greece's economy or the Euro directly effect our market and economy.

It's fairly well understood that any specific economic policies a president signs into law takes beyond a term for its effects to be felt. But with everything else going on in the world, no way to point to one policy and it's effect on numbers like Wall St and unemployment.
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I suspect if there was any impropriety going on in the Benghazi issue it would have been outed by now. Any wrong doing by Hillary Clinton on the Benghazi issue is a manufactured story created by rightwing interests to grasp at any straw to make the woman look bad.
If there was really something there, all the GOP hearings and complaining would have sunk in with the votes before now. The GOP still cares about it, the Democrats don't. That leaves the non-aligned voters, and on that issue they have lost all interest or even the sense that there's anything there.

I'm not thrilled with Hillary, but if you're pinning your hopes on Benghazi, you're living in a fantasyland of GOP nerdism.
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:17 AM
 
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Obama debt after 8 years in office - I updated it to 2016

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Old 07-26-2015, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

"They" say that numbers don't lie.
Those numbers don't look all that good!
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:23 AM
 
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U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

"They" say that numbers don't lie.
Those numbers don't look all that good!
I was going to post it too
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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I guess if any of you were president, you'd do a bang-up job. The country would have no debt.

Judging presidents by debt is ridiculous anyway. FDR and George Washington were president when the country was in enormous debt. They're two of our best presidents. Andrew Jackson paid off the debt, and it helped bring about the worst depression the country had seen at that point.

Republicans obsess about the debt too much. They think its like personal debt.
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Old 07-26-2015, 12:19 PM
 
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I have no way of knowing because everyone's situation is different. But my own situation is that I am just entering into retirement at 60+. I am healthy, enjoying life and with a bit of luck, I will live another 20-30 years.

I am not filthy rich. What I have, I earned and saved over 40+ years of work and by investing in 401's and diversification in stocks, bonds, money market, treasury bills etc during that time. I put together a decent retirement "nest egg" that allows me to live comfortably.

At the end of Bush's administration, my life savings shrank by 30% or more. That was MY money, in MY pocket that simply disappeared. Since Obama came into office, I now have that money back and a bit more. This is not politics or idealism or fanaticism. This is a simple fact about my PERSONAL well being.

Now I can't say I like everything Obama has said or done. I could pretty much say the same thing about every body I know including people very close to me like family members, friends, etc.

I do not know what tomorrow brings. I do not know what the long term affects of the Obama administration will bring but I do know that I am financially better off since he took office.
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