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Old 07-28-2015, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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What's wrong with just taking photos of these rare creatures instead of killing them?
He doesn't get to brag to his mouth breather friends how he shot and killed a defenseless animal in Africa that was loved by the locals.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:13 PM
 
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The dude is doomed. The 4chan/anonymous crowd is going to ruin his life.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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This is not hunting, its killing.

I have no issues with hunting animals for food & clothing, or population management (like feral hogs in TX). But sport killing is a hobby for the weak.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:26 PM
 
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The dude is doomed. The 4chan/anonymous crowd is going to ruin his life.
One can only hope.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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Sport/trophy hunters are scum. Right up there with drunk drivers as far as I'm concerned. What kind of short circuit in the head does one have to get joy from killing other living, sentient beings?!?!
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:37 PM
 
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Sport/trophy hunters are scum. Right up there with drunk drivers as far as I'm concerned. What kind of short circuit in the head does one have to get joy from killing other living, sentient beings?!?!
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Is there such evidence? According to a 2005 paper by Nigel Leader-Williams and colleagues in the Journal of International Wildlife Law and Policy the answer is yes. Leader-Williams describes how the legalization of white rhinoceros hunting in South Africa motivated private landowners to reintroduce the species onto their lands. As a result, the country saw an increase in white rhinos from fewer than one hundred individuals to more than 11,000, even while a limited number were killed as trophies.
In a 2011 letter to Science magazine, Leader-Williams also pointed out that the implementation of controlled, legalized hunting was also beneficial for Zimbabwe’s elephants. “Implementing trophy hunting has doubled the area of the country under wildlife management relative to the 13% in state protected areas,” thanks to the inclusion of private lands, he says. “As a result, the area of suitable land available to elephants and other wildlife has increased, reversing the problem of habitat loss and helping to maintain a sustained population increase in Zimbabwe’s already large elephant population.” It is important to note, however, that the removal of mature elephant males can have other, detrimental consequences on the psychological development of younger males. And rhinos and elephants are very different animals, with different needs and behaviors.
Still, the elephants of Zimbabwe and the white rhinos of South Africa seem to suggest that it is possible for conservation and trophy hunting to coexist, at least in principle. It is indeed a tricky, but not impossible, balance to strike.
It is noteworthy that the Leader-Williams’ 2005 paper recommended that legal trophy hunting for black rhinos be focused mainly on older, non-breeding males, or on younger males who have already contributed sufficient genetic material to their breeding groups. They further suggested that revenues from the sale of permits be reinvested into conservation efforts, and that revenues could be maximized by selling permits through international auctions. Namibia’s own hunting policy, it turns out, is remarkably consistent with scientific recommendations."

Can trophy hunting actually help conservation? - Conservation
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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Nothing immoral about trophy hunting, it does however need to be legal and above board. Taking the steps to ensure the meat is not wasted is also important.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:41 PM
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Location: Texas
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Very sad. What a beautiful animal...dangerous but beautiful none the less.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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Calling the guy a lowlife, a POS, or whatever maybe accurate. However, its not going to accomplish anything.

What I would like to see happen is a boycott of the guy's dental practice. Shut him down. Make it unprofitable for him to practice dentistry. I'd love for a group to picket his office daily. Try to talk his landlord into discharging him as a tenant. Have someone stand in his parking lot and copy down the license numbers of all his patients. Take out an ad in the local paper telling people what he has done. Distribute circulars to his patients describing his "accomplishment".

I am not a fan of animal right's groups per se. However, in this case, I would alert PETA, the humane society, the ASPCA, etc. who he is and what he has done and where he practices.

If he moves to another location than follow him there. Start the whole thing over again. Teach the SOB that no matter what he does he can't escape the stigma of his actions.

I doubt that I am wrong. Anyone who could do such a dastardly thing is nothing, but a narcissist. He probably could care less about his patients. He only views dentistry as a means to earn money and live the lifestyle that he chooses. I suspect many people who know him and work for him realize this already.

In any event, he should never get another moment's peace or tranquility. I'd make a cash donation to anyone willing to undertake this effort with the confines of the law.
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Old 07-28-2015, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Southeast Michigan
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Nothing immoral about trophy hunting, it does however need to be legal and above board. Taking the steps to ensure the meat is not wasted is also important.
And that's why there are permits and licenses and licensed regulated hunting guides.

Unless it's known that this guy deliberately and knowingly engaged in illegal behavior, it's more likely that he paid the fees to have everything done by the book (Purchased permit, hired a licensed local company) and was unknowingly set up by Zimbabwe's corrupt system. But because of this "every trophy hunter is a low life that deserves to be skinned alive" attitude, none of it really matters, he's been already sentenced in the court of the radical public opinion.

Of course if it wasn't for the trophy hunters there wouldn't be as many national parks here or in Africa... A little tidbit of information most people refuse to acknowledge.

I wonder if the rabid posters calling for the total destruction of this guy's life give two hoots about murders of white farmers that are a daily occurrence under Zimbabwe's brutal, corrupt tribal government. Most likely not, since these farmers are not cute fluffy animals.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226940641188

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ight-flee.html
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