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Old 08-21-2015, 07:56 AM
 
Location: between Mars and Venus
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Somebody needs to explain to me how a Lion (and an elderly 13 year old Lion at that) is "more valuable" than a Human Being

I am an Athiest but....

1.) Can Lions create Machines that can travel at the Speed of Sound??
2.) Can Lions enrich Uranium that would power the entire world?
3.) Can Lions craft invisibility cloaks (coming in the next 10 years)?
4.) Can Lions cure/eradicate disease that has plagued vertebrate animals for thousands of years?
5.) Can Lions build Skyscrapers that reach thousands of feet in the air?

Etc Etc Etc Etc I could go on literally for ever......

All that Lions do is kill prey, sleep, poop, reproduce and repeat....they live 100% day by day and in the moment (like all non Human animals do).....Awesome iconic animals to look at and study (Big Cats are awesome) and very important for the African ecosystems that they inhabit, but the comparison to Humans is just not logical....Any comparison between ANY animal and humans is not logical....

Homo Sapiens are like the "Manhattan" of all animal species....The best, most influential, and most important of them all!!! Don't hate me for just saying the truth....Hate Darwin for giving us our superior evolved logic (as opposed to instinct) using brains!!!
Totally agree. And most of them are people who argued concerns over Cecil's death as illogical and how is a lion more valuable than human

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Old 08-21-2015, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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There are a lot of people who hate humam beings. Makes you wonder if they own mirrors. Of course they are never part of the problem, everyone else is.
I guess your mirror is broken then.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:24 AM
 
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I guess your mirror is broken then.
My mirrors are fine, I don't run around with false concern about a lion because it is the cause flavor of the day. That wasn't even a JV try.
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:51 PM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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No doubt when the pledges come due a lot of email addresses and phone numbers used to make them will remain unanswered. Hollow pity and just as hollow concern for the lion. So predictable. Meanwhile, at the local animal control center, animals are killed everyday but they are not endangered because no one can seem to do much to prevent the problems their own animals cause. We care, uh huh.

wrong again.... there are legions of us working every day to clean up the pet overpopulation mess left by those who don't care enough about their companion animals to provide the minimum level of care....

the kind of people who think a lion is just a lion and a dog is just a dog.... not worth worrying one's head over......

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Old 08-21-2015, 06:04 PM
 
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wrong again.... there are legions of us working every day to clean up the pet overpopulation mess left by those who don't care enough about their companion animals to provide the minimum level of care....

the kind of people who think a lion is just a lion and a dog is just a dog.... not worth worrying one's head over......

It is always funny to watch those who say they aren't something rush to try on the shoe that doesn't fit.
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:49 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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It is always funny to watch those who say they aren't something rush to try on the shoe that doesn't fit.

What are you talking about??
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:35 AM
 
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What are you talking about??
Well, late to the party, maybe its time to re-evaluate your alias? Please read the thread.
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Old 08-23-2015, 08:11 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Well, late to the party, maybe its time to re-evaluate your alias? Please read the thread.

i have and you make less and less sense with every single post.....
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Old 09-07-2015, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Glendale, Arizona
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Apparently even Zimbabwe has more common sense than some here......................

Zimbabwe Seems to Cool off on Extraditing Cecil's Hunter

HARARE, Zimbabwe — Sep 7, 2015, 1:31 PM ET
By FARAI MUTSAKA Associated Press
Associated Press


Amid fears that extraditing an American bow hunter for killing Ceil the lion could hurt Zimbabwe's hunting business, authorities seem to have cooled off on pursuing the case against Walter Palmer.

It has been a month since Environment, Water and Climate Minister Oppah Muchinguri announced that the police would process paperwork to extradite Palmer for participating in a hunt that authorities here said was illegal. On Monday there were no new developments in the matters, police spokeswoman Charity Charamba told The Associated Press.

"I still have nothing on that case," she said.

The National Prosecuting Authority, which is responsible for processing extradition requests, said Palmer was not on its files because the police had yet to process a docket for Palmer, a dentist from suburban Minneapolis.

In an interview with AP on Sunday in Minneapolis, Palmer said he believes he acted legally and that he was stunned to find out his hunting party had killed a treasured animal in July. Cecil was a fixture in Zimbabwe's Hwange National Park and had been fitted with a GPS collar as part of Oxford University lion research.

Pursuing Palmer without a concrete case could rattle potential big-paying customers from the United States, said a Zimbabwean government official and safari operators.

Theo Bronkhorst, a Zimbabwean professional hunter who helped Palmer, has been charged with "failure to prevent an illegal hunt." Honest Ndlovu, whose property is near Hwange park, faces a charge of allowing the lion hunt to occur on his farm without proper authority. The hunters allegedly lured Cecil out of Hwange with an animal carcass.

Palmer's hosts should have ensured the hunt was legal, said Emmanuel Fundira, chairman of the Safari Operators Association of Zimbabwe.

"These are the people expected to know the rules and advise clients accordingly," he said. "Clients may end up thinking twice before coming to Zimbabwe if such cases are not handled carefully. Authorities have to be sure there is a case before pushing for the extradition of these hunters."

Hunting supports about 800,000 rural Zimbabwean families, said Fundira.

Extraditing Palmer would "be bad for business," a senior official in the ministry of environment, water and climate told AP.

"American hunters spend big. They are a huge market for us,"
he said, refusing to be named because the killing of Cecil is before the courts. "We still want them here. Zimbabwe sends delegations every year to lure those hunters to bring their money here. They will stop coming if the risk of arrest is high."

Rural communities surrounding national parks also cash in from the hunting business. In 1989, the Zimbabwean government, with the aid of the U.S government, set up the Communal Areas Management for Indigenous Resources, known as Campfire, to plow some of the money from hunting into surrounding rural communities.

Campfire says most hunting clients are from the U.S, Germany and Spain.

"Foreign sport hunters will pay large sums to hunt Africa's trophy animals, far more than other tourists will pay to view them. A single hunter can spend more than $40,000 on a trophy hunting trip," says Campfire, on its website. "At least half of that revenue goes to the local communities for rural development and environmental conservation."
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Old 09-07-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You can forget any charges. Honest is a relative of one of the government people and more than a few lions have been killed on Honor's property.
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