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Old 08-16-2015, 11:01 PM
 
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If you have a beef here, it is with the state legislature for not requiring a mandatory sentence of life without parole for child molesters who repeat their crime. Do you understand that the judge, or judges did what they could?

Don't even really have a beef with the legislature.. Because the original crimes happened in 1964.. and the perp was 16 at the time.

If that happened today.. He would be tried as an adult and the only thing that would be off the table would be the death penalty.. So, legislature has addressed this situation. You cannot retroactively apply a criminal law. Good or bad.
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Old 08-16-2015, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Townsville
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A bullet would cure what ails him.
And a murder rap would cure what ails you.
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Old 08-16-2015, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Townsville
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Here's the problem:

Can you prove that he will commit another crime? No one can.

Would you support equal treatment for all criminals - permanently locking them up in case they might commit another crime? Many of them do.

The state gave him the sentence they thought was appropriate for his behavior and he completed it paying back his debt to society. How can you go back to him now and tell him that he didn't do enough? Legally he did.

(Please no one tell me I'm supporting his behavior. I'm pointing out the issues at play here.)
At last ...an intelligent and non-murderous response . . .
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Old 08-17-2015, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Getting to the root of the issue doesn't equate to fixing the issue. Especially with sex offenders.
No, but it may enable us to detect them in the future before they do much harm.

I find the level of vengeance on the Net fascinating. That Americans, for the rights they have, they are so willing to deny such to others based upon passion, of how they are willing to have a police state for certain people.

Should he have been executed or sent away for life? Certainly. That, however, didn't happen, so now we wait, perhaps with crossed fingers.......of fates I will not say on the open Net.
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Old 08-17-2015, 12:38 AM
 
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No, but it may enable us to detect them in the future before they do much harm.

I find the level of vengeance on the Net fascinating. That Americans, for the rights they have, they are so willing to deny such to others based upon passion, of how they are willing to have a police state for certain people.

Should he have been executed or sent away for life? Certainly. That, however, didn't happen, so now we wait, perhaps with crossed fingers.......of fates I will not say on the open Net.
That person is a predator. He's proved that twice. In Nevada, we have a one bite rule for dogs. The first bite you get a pass on. The second on is being put to sleep. This guy should have been put to sleep on his second offense. Don't forget, he's also a double murderer of children. F^ck him and the horse he rode in on. And same to you weirdos who don't like " bad words".
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:14 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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That person is a predator. He's proved that twice. In Nevada, we have a one bite rule for dogs. The first bite you get a pass on. The second on is being put to sleep. This guy should have been put to sleep on his second offense. Don't forget, he's also a double murderer of children. F^ck him and the horse he rode in on. And same to you weirdos who don't like " bad words".
He is also a citizen of the United States of America with certain rights and as another has pointed out, he has served his sentence completely. It is perhaps unfortunate that he outlived his sentence, but this attitude of "changing one side of the bargain" is not American and is wrong........or, at the very least, is a trait in American history we should not be proud of and we should strive not to make it a habit.
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:40 AM
 
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He is also a citizen of the United States of America with certain rights and as another has pointed out, he has served his sentence completely. It is perhaps unfortunate that he outlived his sentence, but this attitude of "changing one side of the bargain" is not American and is wrong........or, at the very least, is a trait in American history we should not be proud of and we should strive not to make it a habit.
Ok Tam, I respect you. But I'd still put a bullet in his head right before I did mine.
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Old 08-17-2015, 02:38 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Ok Tam, I respect you. But I'd still put a bullet in his head right before I did mine.
I hope one gets a jury of their peers because to me, a vigilante who breaks the law is no hero.

HOWEVER, I've been told that any counselor worth their salt would drop me in a second in jury, at least criminal, selection. I know too much.

What it comes down to, personally, is that for me, there is no believing professionally one way but personally another. If I personally believe that someone ought to do an "Ironside" on him, then professionally, I should not be doing that job.

A and B.

A: As it is, for the most part, practically speaking, I actively don't do a LE job these days but whatever involvement (ie research, analysis, tasking) I might have still requires that professionalism.

B: It is interesting that these days, there is this picture floating around on the Net:
https://foodforthethinkers.files.wor...ce-adam-12.jpg
Now, aside from crossing TV with reality, I find it interesting because there is one episode, "Courtroom" that I hold to heart. In that episode, the officers do an unintentional improper search and a drug dealer walks. The judge looks down on the dealer and says something like, "You are fortunate to live in a country where the rights of the individual, even someone like you, are protected. I wish you were in jail but I have no choice but to release you.".
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Old 08-17-2015, 06:02 AM
 
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