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Old 08-04-2015, 06:19 PM
 
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Judge Rules Rams Can Build Publicly Financed Stadium Without A Vote

"Thanks to a judge’s ruling, the St. Louis Rams are one step closer to fleecing the residents of St. Louis for hundreds of millions of dollars.

Ever since Rams owner Stan Kroenke started dangling the idea of moving his team to L.A. over the heads of fans and politicians, there’s been a mad rush to approve the construction of a new stadium that would hopefully keep the Rams in St. Louis. This push for a new stadium involved the public entity that controls the Rams’ current home, the Edward Jones Dome, suing the city in an effort to invalidate an ordinance requiring a vote to approve any use of public funds for the construction of a stadium. Today, St. Louis Circuit Court Judge Thomas Frawley ruled in favor of the plaintiffs. Frawley agreed with the plaintiffs’ argument that the ordinance was too vague and ambiguous to be enforced, and his ruling essentially invalidates the existing law.
A task force led by Missouri Governor Jay Nixon recently unveiled plans to build a new stadium that would cost nearly $1 billion, with almost $400 million of those costs being covered by public funds.


Seems awfully wasteful. I wish the residents can sue the city for this if they desire.
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Old 08-04-2015, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
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I don't think ANY city/county should use taxpayer funds to build private businesses. It's corruption...pure and simple. A county next to me is trying to do the same thing....the citizens are outraged, and rightly so. The supervisors are all for it. Idiots.
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Old 08-04-2015, 06:56 PM
 
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Take that taxpayers! Learn your place slaves!
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Old 08-04-2015, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Utah
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You might want to fix your title there. St Louis Circuit Court Judge. Not Louisiana judge.

Darn spell check.
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Old 08-04-2015, 07:15 PM
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Where is Charles when you need him?
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Old 08-04-2015, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Los Angeles - not Louisiana! I kept reading this and thinking, "What? The Rams aren't moving to Louisiana...surely not!"

Even so - this is a terrible misuse of judicial power.
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Old 08-04-2015, 07:18 PM
 
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Studies consistently show that stadium deals almost never financially benefit the communities financing the deal. Politicians like the idea of saying that they have a pro team in their district, I guess.

Mick
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Old 08-04-2015, 07:23 PM
 
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You might want to fix your title there. St Louis Circuit Court Judge. Not Louisiana judge.

Darn spell check.
I can?
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Old 08-04-2015, 07:27 PM
 
Location: The City of Brotherly Love
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Studies consistently show that stadium deals almost never financially benefit the communities financing the deal. Politicians like the idea of saying that they have a pro team in their district, I guess.

Mick
They really don't, it seems. I saw and continue to see an example of this, which happened fairly recently. When the MLS was looking to award a city a new soccer team, Philadelphia was chosen. Where was the stadium to be located at? CHESTER! Chester, PA is a literal sewer of a city. It is a ghetto haven. For those of you who think Philly is ghetto, head down I-95 South to Chester and prepare to have your mind (or head, depending on the time of day) blown.

This was touted by the Delaware County media to be the savior of Chester, along with a Harrah's casino. The stadium was such a big project that two new on/off ramps were constructed on US 322 before the Commodore Barry Bridge. This project was supposed to kickstart the revitalization of Chester. What eventually happened? The stadium gets filled, but Chester is still a ghetto dump. No revitalization has occurred at all. In fact, once the games are over, everyone RUSHES back to their cars or to SEPTA to get the hell out. If you are caught in Chester at the wrong time, you may not make it out.

I totally agree with your quote for my reasons stated above.
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Old 08-04-2015, 07:38 PM
 
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This is great! Businesses, especially sports, provide a value to the community, and the government should support them being in the community. The government should be paying for all costs associated with a business, whether it is a stadium for a sport team, or an office for a landscaping company. Just think of the extra money the business owners would have and could funnel back into the community by way of investments.

Also, businesses should not be taxed at all, as they provide employment and the employees should pay tax as they are receiving the benefit of working. The tax dollars the business would save would be invested back into the community (and the US in general) and benefit everyone.

Imagine the the great business environment the US would have if the government paid for all infrastructure the business needs to operate, and gave tax free status for all of them.
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