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Old 09-05-2015, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Wandering in the Dothraki sea
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You dont. Walmart employees are not slaves or poorly treated property. They are sentient and have the sole responsibility to provide for themselves. Walmart offered them a wage, they accepted it. That they need more money to survive is ultimately up to them.
Whether the employees accepted it or not is completely irrelevant to it still being a burden to taxpayers regardless. You and your ilk will whine and moan until the cows come home about people on welfare, but completely look the other way when it's corporate welfare-- that doesn't even "trickle down" to most employees. Walmart doesn't need to be on welfare, they're driving a Ferrari.
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Old 09-05-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: USA
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How many Walmart associates are making a career out of it though? I would assume most are college/high school kids, or the elderly. Those working an hourly associate as a career are probably a minority.
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Old 09-05-2015, 08:43 AM
 
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The lack of a better job is a failure by the person to do what is necessary to get one.
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Old 09-05-2015, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The lack of a better job is a failure by the person to do what is necessary to get one.

Usually it's lack of education and/or language issues.
A GED won't get you far.
Limited English won't get you far.

And with the way welfare works, earn $1 over the eligibility limits could cost them hundreds of dollars in lost benefits. Our welfare system is not set up to transition them to self sufficiency. It's an all or none system.
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Old 09-05-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Wandering in the Dothraki sea
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How many Walmart associates are making a career out of it though? I would assume most are college/high school kids, or the elderly. Those working an hourly associate as a career are probably a minority.
In rural towns, theres not a lot of opportunity--of course there are adults who work at Walmart. It's either that or some other retail/fast food job.
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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Whether the employees accepted it or not is completely irrelevant to it still being a burden to taxpayers regardless. You and your ilk will whine and moan until the cows come home about people on welfare, but completely look the other way when it's corporate welfare-- that doesn't even "trickle down" to most employees. Walmart doesn't need to be on welfare, they're driving a Ferrari.
That is called extortion by any other name. Hey, do what you want and then when it isn't enough bring out the old tired mantea of it will cost us anyway. Ends justifying the means. Using your logic we should all stop working and wait for the handout. But then, that appears to be the goal anyway doesn't it? Always those who can't figure life out complaining about others who do.
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Old 09-05-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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In rural towns, theres not a lot of opportunity--of course there are adults who work at Walmart. It's either that or some other retail/fast food job.
Living in a rural town is a choice. If one person can make it out, so can everyone else, if they want to. The problem here isn't needs, it is wants.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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Living in a rural town is a choice. If one person can make it out, so can everyone else, if they want to. The problem here isn't needs, it is wants.
So if one person buys an island at the age of 20, so can everyone else?
If one person becomes valedictorian, so can everyone else?

You realize that many of these opportunities are limited, and that only so many people can pursue them? There simply are not enough middle class jobs to go around for everyone. That's why you see middle aged adults working in the likes of Home Depot, Walmart, Target, and Wendys, and FF. With the case of FF, I've seen the same older ladies working there for years on end. You're trying to squeeze blood from a rock.
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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So if one person buys an island at the age of 20, so can everyone else?
If one person becomes valedictorian, so can everyone else?

You realize that many of these opportunities are limited, and that only so many people can pursue them? There simply are not enough middle class jobs to go around for everyone. That's why you see middle aged adults working in the likes of Home Depot, Walmart, Target, and Wendys, and FF. With the case of FF, I've seen the same older ladies working there for years on end. You're trying to squeeze blood from a rock.
All people aged 20 have the opportunity to buy an island. Supply has absolutely nothing to do with opportunity. Argue against that and I'll explain it to you. There is no such thing as limited opportunity. There are however, limits people put on themselves that preclude them from taking the limitless opportunities they have available. Also, yes, everyone has the opportunity to be a Valedictorian.
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Old 09-06-2015, 08:26 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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All people aged 20 have the opportunity to buy an island. Supply has absolutely nothing to do with opportunity. Argue against that and I'll explain it to you. There is no such thing as limited opportunity. There are however, limits people put on themselves that preclude them from taking the limitless opportunities they have available. Also, yes, everyone has the opportunity to be a Valedictorian.
Most islands cost more then 50,000 how are 20 year old gonna afford that? Supply has everything to do with it since if there is to much supply there is not enough demand to fill that supply. Limits like not being able to afford education, not being born intelligent, having bad parents. The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" people are so delusional and far away from reality.
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