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Old 10-13-2015, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Not sure if it was on purpose, but you made a significant mistake here by using fatalities as a proxy for "attacks". Bullet proof vest usage has gone up dramatically in recent years while new trauma methods have quadrupled the survivability of head wounds (the most common type of fatal wound while wearing a bullet proof vest).
The LEOKA stats tell a different story than fatalities alone. The early 90s were the worst period in our history for attacks on law enforcement. Since that time, attacks have held steady at 55k to 60k assaults per year (though a greater proportion now are aggravated assaults) even as fatalities have decreased.
Where this will get interesting is when the 2014 and 2015 reports come out (there is a 2 year lag; the 2013 preliminary report was just released).

Feel free to browse the site I linked. It has all sorts of information regard officer statistics.

It also provides information on non-fatal assaults towards police officers among other facts, including those that do not involve any injuries. This should cover ALL types of attacks... even those affected by bullet proof vest usages:


YEAR - DEATHS - ASSAULTS - ASSAULTS WITH INJURIES
2004
165 59,692 16,737
2005
163 57,820 16,072
2006
156 59,396 15,916
2007
192 61,257 15,736
2008
148 61,087 15,554
2009 125 57,268 14,948
2010
161 56,491 14,744
2011 171 55,631 14,798
2012
126 53,867 14,678
2013
107 49,851 14,565
Avg 151 57,346 15,375

Here's the link to this particular page:
National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund: Deaths, Assaults & Injuries

Again.. Facts completely disprove this whole "War on cops" propaganda. The past few years have had a DECREASE of attacks against police officers.

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Old 10-13-2015, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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There is also the fact that many times the videos that are being shown only show one side of the story. They are often cut and edited to show the police at the worst and showing the other person as a poor victim who did nothing wrong.

Kudos but it's way more fun for some people with their paranoid agenda to blow things way out of proportion and lump everyone into the one size fits all mentality. It's an incredibly narrow, sad way to live in my opinion. I think the Olive Garden should invite the police officer and the whole shift for a free meal. Guns and all. I would really love to hear why the hostess denied his entry. She's coming off as either incredibly stupid or a hater. Maybe I'm missing something? Her input would be interesting.
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Old 10-13-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Again.. Facts completely disprove this whole "War on cops" propaganda. The past few years have had a DECREASE of attacks against police officers.
Yes.

The regressives constantly berate "liberal outrage". They too have outrage, just directed at different targets. Let's face it, outrage makes people feel good and self-justifies their own beliefs, whether accurate or not.
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Old 10-13-2015, 11:39 AM
 
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Feel free to browse the site I linked. It has all sorts of information regard officer statistics.

It also provides information on non-fatal assaults towards police officers among other facts, including those that do not involve any injuries. This should cover ALL types of attacks... even those affected by bullet proof vest usages:


YEAR - DEATHS - ASSAULTS - ASSAULTS WITH INJURIES
2004 165 59,692 16,737
2005 163 57,820 16,072
2006 156 59,396 15,916
2007 192 61,257 15,736
2008 148 61,087 15,554
2009 125 57,268 14,948
2010 161 56,491 14,744
2011 171 55,631 14,798
2012 126 53,867 14,678
2013 107 49,851 14,565
Avg 151 57,346 15,375

Here's the link to this particular page:
National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund: Deaths, Assaults & Injuries

Again.. Facts completely disprove this whole "War on cops" propaganda. The past few years have had a DECREASE of attacks against police officers.
And you can't just look at "assaults," which covers all circumstances that a police officer is met with resistance. If you want to talk about a "war on police," what you really want to look at is ambush attacks--assaults outside the circumstances in which the officer has responded to some other criminal event that resulted in resistance.

Regarding ambushes in 2013: 234.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...eared_2013.xls
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Old 10-13-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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Yes.

The regressives constantly berate "liberal outrage". They too have outrage, just directed at different targets. Let's face it, outrage makes people feel good and self-justifies their own beliefs, whether accurate or not.
Outrage sells. It used to be sex and violence, but today peddling outrage is a major market.
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Old 10-13-2015, 11:58 AM
 
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If I was a waitress and knew that cop had killed someones family dog, I would refuse to wait on him as well. That's my line in the sand.
Is that your employers policy, If not, and if I was your employer, you would be looking for a job!

Most businesses are very happy to have cope frequent their establishments, it's good for safety
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:01 PM
 
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I have no problem with a uniformed officer having his gun on him. The question I would ask is how many hours did he actually work as compared to his assignment.
What gives you the right to question the cop? Are you his supervisor?
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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Ah yes, nothing more professional than revenge.
Why not, it works And, if the BoH finds violations it is good for future future customer's safety
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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What gives you the right to question the cop? Are you his supervisor?
An American citizen has every right to question virtually everything. It's done right here on City-Data every day...including by you.
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:21 PM
 
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I misread, he was in uniform lol
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