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Old 11-21-2015, 10:07 PM
 
Location: in the mountains
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Quit hitting yourself on the head, you're making yourself dumber.
Let's see, CNN, NPR, WaPo again, and FOX Latino? What? FOX Latino must be liberal, but English language FOX is faux-conservative. I see now, turn the Latinos against the English speakers.

You choose 3 of the 5 most obnoxiously Liberal media "news" outlets. That's not truth that you're reading there. So you get your facts from TV. Great education you got going on there.

Facts disagree with Obama, not me. Facts are that any foreign national cannot simply fly in to the USA any old time they want to, depending on their country of origin, they have to be approved to do so by our State Department and numerous government watch lists.
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Old 11-21-2015, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Quit hitting yourself on the head, you're making yourself dumber.
I don't mind you repeating yourself a dozen times and trying to re-litigate the same subject over and over, but please avoid personal attacks, ok?
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Old 11-22-2015, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Just because we can't get records, does not mean Syria does not have access to records on those applying for Passports. Syria not issuing a Passport, would certainly count as preclusion, wouldn't it.

An ISIL Passport Plot? Really? That's so far fetched its funny.
There are many places in this world where one can get fake passports.
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Old 11-22-2015, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Really...America did not exist until Europeans landed here? So I guess the indigenous people were just figments of our collective imagination?
No, the other poster had a point.

The Indians had no nation, no boundaries, no government beyond simple tribes. Often there was no "home", but with many tribes a very nomadic nature. The Iroquois Confederacy approached something of concept of a nation.

"Americans" founded a nation, with written laws, and boundaries, and conducted relations with other entities.
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Old 11-22-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I don't mind you repeating yourself a dozen times and trying to re-litigate the same subject over and over, but please avoid personal attacks, ok?
I think you need to go back and read your own last few posts and then take your own advice. You're usually quite a good poster whose posts I find interesting to read.
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Old 11-22-2015, 08:59 PM
 
Location: in the mountains
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No, the other poster had a point.

The Indians had no nation, no boundaries, no government beyond simple tribes. Often there was no "home", but with many tribes a very nomadic nature. The Iroquois Confederacy approached something of concept of a nation.

"Americans" founded a nation, with written laws, and boundaries, and conducted relations with other entities.
Yes, exactly, thank you for being an educated person and having educated yourself about Native American cultures.

Today there are nations of Natives who have their own tribal governments in North America. A nation of people can exist without having a country to call their own, the Jews are an example of this, they created Israel for this very reason. Before then, they were a nomadic "tribe" of sorts, they were unified by common cultural ideals, values, and religion, and thus were a nation of people.

Native North Americans were varied as some were quite nomadic while others used a mixture of agriculture and hunting & gathering. They traded and warred with neighboring tribes, but there were no drawn boundaries, and there was no country. It was just land.

The Native Americans did not believe in the concept of land ownership. Just like the Native Americans of Florida didn't have a word for snow, because they had never seen it. The concept of owning land did not exist, because of their reverence for nature and living in harmony with it. Their spirituality tied in with nature, so they would see the concept of owning a part of nature (owning the land) as arrogant blasphemy.
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Old 11-23-2015, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Some governors (including Clinton) said the same thing about the Cubans in '80. It was all for show--people are going to settle wherever they can, and that's that.
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Old 12-04-2015, 09:53 AM
 
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Well stated.

The people who are screaming the loudest and are creating the most fear would also have you believe they are 'Christians'.

CINOs.

'Would Jesus take in Syrian refugees?': Washington Post asks the right question
So living in liberal la la land you were saying?

Tried to warn you but you call it fear mongering. Yes he was a U.S. citizen with a wife that was VETTED and migrated to the U.S. and look what happened.

I'll bet those people who were murdered or injured thought "oh that stuff won't happen here"

Now you were saying that our vetting is good enough?
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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The Native Americans did not believe in the concept of land ownership. Just like the Native Americans of Florida didn't have a word for snow, because they had never seen it. The concept of owning land did not exist, because of their reverence for nature and living in harmony with it. Their spirituality tied in with nature, so they would see the concept of owning a part of nature (owning the land) as arrogant blasphemy.
Poppycock! Native Americans understood and practiced the concept of land ownership, though because American Indians are not monolithic there was wide variations on the specifics. Farming cultures were more likely to have more thought out land ownership customs and laws because of the investment to make it productive. Native Americans own land or territory, they fought over it!

Also they did not live in harmony with the land and more or less than anyone else. They practiced slash and burn agriculture, would chase herds of bison off of cliffs and take the best parts and leave the rest to rot, and would intentionally flood land for agriculture.
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