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I've been following the games, they are always fun. Now, I don't know if I want to even watch anymore. Hopefully, I'll snap out of it, but what a bummer.
No, the real story is that Muslims screamed "Allahu Akbar" during a moment of silence for the Paris attacks
Because they haven't demonstrated an ability to comply with European tax regimes or promote a stability in its currency so that the EU doesn't have another Greece on its hands?
The Kurds are really not the knights in shining white armor come to rescue the middle east.
Right now they're our friends as long as our interests are allied. Who knows what might happen a few years hence if their demands are met.
Pretty much. The Iraqi Kurds might be pro-American, but I have yet to meet a Kurd in Turkey who is pro-American, and I've interacted with hundreds of them. Most of them are totally fine with American people, but they don't have a whole lot of love for America. Even the US assistance against ISIS doesn't score us any points with some of them, as they believe that ISIS is an American creation.
But America has sucked at choosing its future allies for decades. Remember the brave Mujahideen who fought our proxy war against the Soviets? Our Cold War allies Pakistan?
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Culturally they are pretty much the same as the other bloodthirsty, vengeful, fundamentalist tribal nations in the region.
This is true of a lot of the Sunnis, but the Alevi minority are dramatically different. They, in particular the Zaza(if they count as Kurds), are well suited for living a life based on the humanistic values held in Western countries.
What percentage of people on this thread actually read the Time article? 5%? Because at best it seems unclear if the fans were (a) booing the terrorists, (b) booing the moment of silence, or (c) chanting in support of the Paris attack victims. If it's (a) or (c) then it's a good thing, and if it's (b) it's rude and awful, but is not the same as if they were cheering ISIS. Let's at least get the facts straight. Jesus.
It's probably a mix of a, b, and c. Plus (d) people who just want to make noise for the sake of making noise, (e) people who enjoy doing the opposite of what they are told, and (f) people who want to fit in with group around them.
The ones chanting Nationalist slogans (the only chants I could clearly hear), were most likely trying to acknowledge the soldiers and police who have died in the recent conflicts in the South Eastern parts of Turkey. Whether they meant to draw a parallel between those deaths and the victims in Paris is unclear, but it is unlikely.
Allah Akbar is not a phrase used in Turkish. Anyone shouting that at the match is hardcore Islamist, the most debased part of Turkey's population. They aren't likely to be ISIS supporters, but they are still scum.
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