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Old 11-22-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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hopefully isis pisses china off next... then things should get pretty interesting in syria
They already have. They executed some Chinese hostages the other day. China declared war on ISIS, from what I understand. ( no link, I've just heard it tossed about online )
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Old 11-23-2015, 04:05 AM
 
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They already have. They executed some Chinese hostages the other day. China declared war on ISIS, from what I understand. ( no link, I've just heard it tossed about online )

China ain't gonna do *****, the so called War on Terror has greatly benefitted China, there are a billion people in China, you think killing one hostage means anything? During the Korean War, the US was threatening China with nukes. Mao said it himself, "What are they gonna do, bomb a bunch of farms? Kill one millions of us and there will just be millions more".
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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China ain't gonna do *****, the so called War on Terror has greatly benefitted China, there are a billion people in China, you think killing one hostage means anything? During the Korean War, the US was threatening China with nukes. Mao said it himself, "What are they gonna do, bomb a bunch of farms? Kill one millions of us and there will just be millions more".
China has been fighting extremists for decades. But since they control the media they do not publicize it much. It is only recently with social media and the Internet that we have had solid information on these attacks. China does not publicize all of their responses and I am sure many of them would not be looked favorably on by human rights groups.
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Spot on! There are two groups of Muslims in China, the other one, the Hui has been pretty peaceful. This "Islamic Terrorism" is just another opportunity for China to clamp down harder on the Uyghurs. Most Han Chinese don't like them all that much, when the oil is depleted maybe they will have their independence.
The Hui Muslims are basically Muslim Chinese people - not exactly the Han ethnicity, but close. They tend to speak Mandarin or other local, regional dialects (Hunanese, Cantonese, etc) and excepting Islamic spirituality, are generally culturally similar.

Uyghurs are an admixture of Turkic, Chinese/Mongolian, and to a lesser extent, Russian heritage, owing to their location and the inclusion of various nomadic groups, with a separate language and culture. Even though most of them aren't radicals or even necessarily support separatism, they are well-aware of their status as second class citizens and are generally not particularly fond of it. The ones who are sepratists and radicals support the formation of "Eastern Turkestan;" basically, the Xinjiang SAR breaking away from China and being more closely aligned with other Turkic Central Asian nations such as Kazakhstan and Tajikistan.

As far as the OP goes...

Over the last few years, there have been rashes of railway attacks as well as vehicle rammings, and "bombings" using propane tanks and the like, since it is harder to obtain firearms or explosives in China than elsewhere. Thankfully, the terrorists who carry them out don't seem to be sophisticated enough to branch out of railway stations, but it's only a matter of time before one with an IQ above 70 realizes he can strike a mall or something.

When the attacks do happen, there is usually little to no information on it in the media. There was an attack at the Guangzhou East Railway station a little over a year ago... there was a little blurb on it, and then you didn't hear anything about it until about six months later, when they announced that they'd executed the captured perpetrators in a one-paragraph new blurb. And that was that.

The good thing about this method is that it deprives these nutcases of the glory they were seeking: they die unknown, their names and actions fading into oblivion without making a dent in the psyche of the average Chinese person.
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Old 11-23-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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Every country that has a sizable Muslim population will have Islamic terror issues.

After all the role model for Muslims; Muhammad, was himself a terrorist.
Sina's Challenge
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Old 11-23-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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Every country that has a sizable Muslim population will have Islamic terror issues.

After all the role model for Muslims; Muhammad, was himself a terrorist.
Sina's Challenge

That is what "THEY" want you to think. Nobody fights for religion, people fight for money and power or certain social injustices.
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Old 11-23-2015, 09:10 AM
 
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The Hui Muslims are basically Muslim Chinese people - not exactly the Han ethnicity, but close. They tend to speak Mandarin or other local, regional dialects (Hunanese, Cantonese, etc) and excepting Islamic spirituality, are generally culturally similar.

Uyghurs are an admixture of Turkic, Chinese/Mongolian, and to a lesser extent, Russian heritage, owing to their location and the inclusion of various nomadic groups, with a separate language and culture. Even though most of them aren't radicals or even necessarily support separatism, they are well-aware of their status as second class citizens and are generally not particularly fond of it. The ones who are sepratists and radicals support the formation of "Eastern Turkestan;" basically, the Xinjiang SAR breaking away from China and being more closely aligned with other Turkic Central Asian nations such as Kazakhstan and Tajikistan.

As far as the OP goes...

Over the last few years, there have been rashes of railway attacks as well as vehicle rammings, and "bombings" using propane tanks and the like, since it is harder to obtain firearms or explosives in China than elsewhere. Thankfully, the terrorists who carry them out don't seem to be sophisticated enough to branch out of railway stations, but it's only a matter of time before one with an IQ above 70 realizes he can strike a mall or something.

When the attacks do happen, there is usually little to no information on it in the media. There was an attack at the Guangzhou East Railway station a little over a year ago... there was a little blurb on it, and then you didn't hear anything about it until about six months later, when they announced that they'd executed the captured perpetrators in a one-paragraph new blurb. And that was that.

The good thing about this method is that it deprives these nutcases of the glory they were seeking: they die unknown, their names and actions fading into oblivion without making a dent in the psyche of the average Chinese person.
A lot of the Uyghurs are pick pockets, that is where the tension comes from. Most Han Chinese see them as somewhat of a nuissance. The "Terrorism" in China is not "religously motivated", it is mostly social/political.
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Old 11-23-2015, 09:14 AM
 
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That is what "THEY" want you to think. Nobody fights for religion, people fight for money and power or certain social injustices.
We know this is wrong but just for ****s and giggles can you explain all of the suicide bombers or the suicide attackers such as the ones in Mumbai who they have ample phone recordings of where they ask for their controllers to pray that their martyrdom be accepted?
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Old 11-23-2015, 09:25 AM
 
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That is what "THEY" want you to think. Nobody fights for religion, people fight for money and power or certain social injustices.
I am from Pakistan and you are deluded.

http://youtu.be/MSklZY_VCIM
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Old 11-23-2015, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma USA
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So, basically you're saying that terror is only terror when it's against western interest? In China, terror is really "struggle against oppression"? Please give me a break! This kind of double standard is pure BS. China should clean house in Xinjiang and then help bomb ISIS back to the 7th century.
I do not defend terrorism in any form, for any cause.

Uyghur nationalism has been corrupted by an influx of influence by radical Islamists, an has degenerated into outbreaks of terrorism.

Uyghur nationalism, the original movement, is no different from Tibetan nationalism.
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