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Old 11-24-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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If it was self defense, then everyone involved, regardless of affiliation, needs to be thrown in jail.

However, the guy who fired off the gun may have shot a protester(s) who was not involved in the "chasing" of the guys filming the gathering, so he shouldn't get off scot-free. Let's not be ridiculous.
I think it's pretty clear it was self defense. As such the man who fired the weapon shouldn't face any charges. And it doesn't matter if one of the people who was shot wasn't directly attacking them.

The BLM types who started the incident should face assault charges.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:10 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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Do I? No. I dont speak for others tho. Unless they threatened them inciting them means quite literally nothing. Many Americans are armed on a daily basis, myself included. Does that mean I am looking for a fight?
No, because you don't show up to situations in which you believe (your words) you're at such a risk that you feel the need to be armed and wear bulletproof vests.

Tired of going into circles.

Throw them all in jail, BLM protesters who assaulted them and the other protester who shot 5 people.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:12 PM
 
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No, because you don't show up to situations in which you believe (your words) you're at such a risk that you feel the need to be armed and wear bulletproof vests.

Tired of going into circles.

Throw them all in jail, BLM protesters who assaulted them and the other protester who shot 5 people.
If they were assaulted and used justifiable force why are we throwing them in jail?
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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white supremacist, aka Hispanic man. lol, Black LIES matter people telling more lies.
Ayo liberals.. how you going to spin this one?
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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Why is showing up to a protest armed a bad thing? Last protest/rally I attended was a pro -gun one here in MA. Pretty much everyone was armed. So what?


Acting 'suspicious' is not justification for assault.
Common sense.

Let me know when you decide to go to a protest in which said group has a "violent history" and you're so knowingly putting yourself at risk that you wear a bulletproof vest. I usually don't wear mine when I go to Target or HEB.

We don't know what was said at the initial altercation, and we may never know. That's like a black person being outside a KKK rally, getting into an altercation and getting upset that they get assaulted.

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I think it's pretty clear it was self defense. As such the man who fired the weapon shouldn't face any charges. And it doesn't matter if one of the people who was shot wasn't directly attacking them.

The BLM types who started the incident should face assault charges.
And if they should face charges, so should the men who assaulted the heckler at the Trump rally, if you're going to be consistent.

If they were in the wrong, they should face criminal charges for assaulting the other protesters, but you can't have it both ways.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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There IS a video posted on YouTube that shows BLM 'protestors' explaining what happened. I tried to post it earlier but it was removed because it contains offensive language (or at least I suspect that's the reason).

The 2 guys in the video explain what happened:

1) Three guys were filming the BML gathering

2) The BLM types told them to stop filming and remove their masks. Then they chased them off.

3) The BLM types then again approached the 3 men and physically assaulted (punched0 at least one of the 3 men.

4) At least one of the 3 men pulled a gun and fired, presumably in self defense.

Since I can't link to the video directly (and I understand why) here is a link to a site that has the video and other details:

5 Shot In Minneapolis After #BlackLivesMatter Protesters Surround, Attack And Chase Group…Update: Video Of The 3 People Being Surrounded By BLM, BLM Say Turn Cameras Off…Update: ‘White Supremacists’ Included Asian, BLM Had Bee


That seems like a case of self defense.
Wow, so BLM attacked these 4 guys
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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Common sense.

Let me know when you decide to go to a protest in which said group has a "violent history" and you're so knowingly putting yourself at risk that you wear a bulletproof vest. I usually don't wear mine when I go to Target or HEB.

We don't know what was said at the initial altercation, and we may never know. That's like a black person being outside a KKK rally, getting into an altercation and getting upset that they get assaulted.



And if they should face charges, so should the men who assaulted the heckler at the Trump rally, if you're going to be consistent.

If they were in the wrong, they should face criminal charges for assaulting the other protesters, but you can't have it both ways.
Hecklers get escorted out, not punched like these guys at the BLM rally....keep digging your hole
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:24 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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white supremacist, aka Hispanic man. lol, Black LIES matter people telling more lies.
Ayo liberals.. how you going to spin this one?
Uh, the PD said one of the men they arrested was white. Ayo, take that up with the MPD.

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If they were assaulted and used justifiable force why are we throwing them in jail?
I didn't say all the protesterS, I said the protesteR that fired the gun. I don't know MN laws, but the PD arrested two, and are looking for a third, so clearly they feel they have reason enough to believe they weren't as innocent as you are hoping for them to be.


Good grief.

You're at protest and three guys with masks roll up with bulletproof vests and armed, yet they're completely innocent, here. Just another day on C-D.

Yeah, take your concealed weapon, with your Freddy Krueger mask on out in public, and see what kind of response you get.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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Hecklers get escorted out, not punched like these guys at the BLM rally....keep digging your hole
Watch Trump Supporters Punch, Kick Black Lives Matter Protester at Rally <--- Most people call that "battery".

Maybe if this heckler would've showed up armed, with a bulletproof vest and a mask on, you would defend him. I won't hold my breath.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:27 PM
 
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Uh, the PD said one of the men they arrested was white. Ayo, take that up with the MPD.



I didn't say all the protesterS, I said the protesteR that fired the gun. I don't know MN laws, but the PD arrested two, and are looking for a third, so clearly they feel they have reason enough to believe they weren't as innocent as you are hoping for them to be.


Good grief.

You're at protest and three guys with masks roll up with bulletproof vests and armed, yet they're completely innocent, here. Just another day on C-D.

Yeah, take your concealed weapon, with your Freddy Krueger mask on out in public, and see what kind of response you get.
Wearing a mask, bullet proof vest and even being armed are not cause for being assaulted. If the protester the fired the gun feared for his life or any of his compatriots lives as a result of being assaulted his actions are justified. The police making arrests means nothing. Being arrested does not imply guilt. It can however imply political pressure.
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