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Old 11-24-2015, 06:38 AM
 
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Putin: Downing Of Jet A 'Stab In The Back'

Lets hope cooler heads prevail and this does not develop any further. 'Rebels' have killed one of the pilots (allegedly) and one is missing.

It is IMO time to stop this nonsense recognize Assad and call it a day. This is an incredibly dangerous day missteps will cost us all.
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Old 11-24-2015, 06:43 AM
 
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Putin is going to be mad about this one.
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Old 11-24-2015, 06:47 AM
 
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Putin is going to be mad about this one.
Lets just hope this does not become headline of the decade. It is now on us to deploy fast response planes (more tanks?) to Turkey in order to maintain a NATO members security. Thats bad.
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Old 11-24-2015, 06:51 AM
 
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Are there any indications this is a common flight path when Russian planes deploy to Syria? If so there is certainly a possibility this was specifically done to send a message.

Shot down by an F-16 it appears.
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Old 11-24-2015, 06:52 AM
 
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Good for Turkey. They are willing to stand up to the murderous bully Putin.
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Old 11-24-2015, 06:55 AM
 
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Good for Turkey. They are willing to stand up to the murderous bully Putin.
Major powers shooting at each other is pretty much never something to cheer for particularly when we have a defensive commitment to one of them.

Shooting down Russian planes over defense of ISIS?

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Old 11-24-2015, 07:00 AM
 
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I wonder if Turkey was more likely to pull something like this BECAUSE of its inclusion in NATO. "Starting" fights because it's got bigger brothers to finish them for it.

Have you guys seen the alleged radar track?

https://mobile.twitter.com/CNNTURK_E...822016/photo/1

Do y'all feel that plane deserved to be shot down due to THAT incursion? Then again, an incursion is an incursion. KAL 007, cough, cough.
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Old 11-24-2015, 07:01 AM
 
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Major powers shooting at each other is pretty much never something to cheer for particularly when we have a defensive commitment to one of them.
It's much better than not shooting down the plane, which would lead to further Russian aggression and more lost lives.
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Shooting down Russian planes over defense of ISIS?
What are you talking about? Turkey is a sworn enemy of ISIS. Russia has been aiding ISIS by protecting Assad, who is defacto allied with ISIS. Russia has been eliminating ISIS' enemies.
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Old 11-24-2015, 07:03 AM
 
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It's much better than not shooting down the plane, which would lead to further Russian aggression and more lost lives.

What are you talking about? Turkey is a sworn enemy of ISIS. Russia has been aiding ISIS by protecting Assad, who is defacto allied with ISIS. Russia has been eliminating ISIS' enemies.
The only ISIS enemy than can win is Assad. Contributing to the power vacuum by attacking both ISIS and Assad only succeeds in strengthening ISIS. Attacking all rebels removes the power vacuum and makes it more difficult for ISIS to operate. Support for rebels is support for ISIS.
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Old 11-24-2015, 07:04 AM
 
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BREAKING: Second pilot found dead amid reports rescue helicopter also DOWNED | World | News | Daily Express

Russian helicopter shot down by rebels.
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