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Old 12-01-2015, 02:09 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Going by the article, I'd say the shooter should be charged.

There was no threat from the kid. Did the shooter even give them a chance to leave? Doesn't sound like it.
It said three of them not one so that can change the landscape quickly if they confronted him.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Black man shoots and kills another black. No charges. Why the fuss? Since when does black on black violence become noteworthy?

Had the shooter been white, there would be riots already, calls for justice, demands for prosecution.

Instead, silence.

Just imagine what would happen if the shooter was black and the victim was white. I can hear the erection at Fox News already.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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And if the kid had been white, the black man would never have seen the outside of a jail cell again.
Equally as bad don't you think? But the kid wasn't white, he was black and you hear nothing about this. Is not the shooting of a black kid just as worthy of prosecution and public outrage as the shooting of a white kid? To be clear, it isn't the race of the kid that is important, it is the race of the shooter, that is what probably makes the difference.

On another note:

All that should be directed to the writers of the news article. It could have been written without mentioning race, the FACT that is was mentioned means it was of consequence and therefore a valid point of discussion.

Don't post a link to an article about a red car and then not expect or not appear to encourage others to comment about the color of the car. It is almost guaranteed that if you post about a red corvette, people who like corvettes will say something about not liking the red as they prefer blue or green or yellow. Post about a corvette sans color and the discussion will flow about the car only, color never being an issue.

To post an article that makes a point about the race of the subjects and then have others say it has nothing to do with race is rather disingenuous. Find another article that doesn't mention it, not too hard to do.

Race does have something to do with this topic, saying it doesn't is being naive.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:15 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It said three of them not one so that can change the landscape quickly if they confronted him.
Yes, that's true. Not enough info to come to a conclusion. Unless the other two are identified and interviewed, we will only get one side of the story.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Damn Red cars, always starting trouble...
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Old 12-01-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: WMHT
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They weren't just stealing from cars, and the car in question apparently wasn't parked on the street, they had to hop a gate to get at it:
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'He didn`t say anything, he just started shooting,' said Smith-Payne`s 14-year-old cousin, who said he was with him when he was shot.
The cousin asked not to be identified.
He says he was with Smith-Payne and another younger friend when they stopped to rummage through an unlocked car parked behind a house in the 5900 block of Riverview Boulevard, in the Northpoint neighborhood.
'We saw the car inside the gate, we hopped the gate, Martinez was on the passenger side, and me and the other young man was on the driver`s side, and we were rambling through his car, so the man came out and must have seen us. He fired at us and we hopped the gate, but Martinez didn`t make it over the gate,' the cousin said.
He says the three of them had been staying at their young friend`s house Saturday night when they decided to go for a late night bike ride.
He says around midnight they got hungry and began rummaging through cars looking for change to buy snacks.
It`s a decision he says they made together, but that ultimately, he feels responsible.
'I was supposed to be the oldest,' he said. 'I was supposed to be the one to tell them to not go in the cars.'
I'm guessing those are two kids who won't be stealing from cars for a while.
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Old 12-01-2015, 06:04 PM
 
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If this happened more often, there'd be a lot fewer thieves and burglars around and we'd all be safer.
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Old 12-01-2015, 06:35 PM
 
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In Missouri, you can protect your family, your property, your neighbors and their property with deadly force.
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Old 12-01-2015, 06:51 PM
 
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If this happened more often, there'd be a lot fewer thieves and burglars around and we'd all be safer.
Not allowing people to protect their property just creates victims.

What always comes up is people saying no one deserves to be killed for stealing. Think about that, no one is saying anyone "deserves" to be killed for stealing, only that if you decide to steal, you are the one putting your life at risk. If you gamble and lose it, that is your own fault.
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Old 12-01-2015, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Did the kids have a weapon? A knife, or bat?
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