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Old 02-17-2016, 05:53 PM
 
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I'm not sure how this can even be enforced. Who's going to physically force them to create this key? Who's to say they even know how to do it.

I'm shocked how many small government, conservatives think this is a good idea.
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Old 02-17-2016, 05:56 PM
 
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I get it, but you dont..Apple is simply obstructing justice.
You don't get it in the least bit
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Old 02-17-2016, 05:56 PM
 
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I get it, but you dont..Apple is simply obstructing justice. And the Feds should make it painful, like they would to an ordinary citizen.
I dont care if the apple product is able to be hacked, as it can regardless of what Apple says.. Lets not be naive.
Obstructing justice? They currently do not have the ability to do this. And if they agreed to creating a hack, they would be setting a precedent that could be used down the line, for God knows what. They're wise to avoid that.
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Old 02-17-2016, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I'm not sure how this can even be enforced. Who's going to physically force them to create this key? Who's to say they even know how to do it.

I'm shocked how many small government, conservatives think this is a good idea.

I think some haven't read the article.....or even the thread....while others don't understand the danger of setting a precedent.
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Old 02-17-2016, 05:58 PM
 
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I'm not sure how this can even be enforced. Who's going to physically force them to create this key? Who's to say they even know how to do it.

I'm shocked how many small government, conservatives think this is a good idea.
Its not about small government, its about obstructing justice. We, the USA, need to know who the hell this persons phone was in contact with. Follow the evidence. Get over the security of the iphone customer, that is just BS>
The NSA, CIA, FBI etc are here to do a job, and some liberal minded people cant see why this has nothing to do with unlocking phone, personal security etc. Its about tracking down a terrorist organization with the encrypted data right in front of their face, and some smug CEO says no, to get points with his customers.
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:00 PM
 
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Obstructing justice? They currently do not have the ability to do this. And if they agreed to creating a hack, they would be setting a precedent that could be used down the line, for God knows what. They're wise to avoid that.
Think outside the box, and think what is more important.. Your life or someone like the feds being able to see whats on your phone. And dont think they dont already.. NSA, CIA, FBI etc and hackers know allot more about you than you think.
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:01 PM
 
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Its not about small government, its about obstructing justice. We, the USA, need to know who the hell this persons phone was in contact with. Follow the evidence. Get over the security of the iphone customer, that is just BS>
The NSA, CIA, FBI etc are here to do a job, and some liberal minded people cant see why this has nothing to do with unlocking phone, personal security etc. Its about tracking down a terrorist organization with the encrypted data right in front of their face, and some smug CEO says no, to get points with his customers.
I give up, it's pointless to respond to people who ignore the actual FACTS of the situation.
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:04 PM
 
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I give up, it's pointless to respond to people who ignore the actual FACTS of the situation.
Noted, you go ahead and ignore too. Conversations some times digress, and all parts of the conversation are relevant.
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Think outside the box, and think what is more important.. Your life or someone like the feds being able to see whats on your phone. And dont think they dont already.. NSA, CIA, FBI etc and hackers know allot more about you than you think.
Yes, they do know a lot more than any of us thinks, because over the past fifteen years we've had our civil liberties slowly eroded.

They know where terrorist cells are here and have done nothing about them. They know where there are training camps here and have done nothing about those. They do not need to do what they're doing and it's not the responsibility of a corporation to try and help any government agency usurp the rights of its citizens.

The FBI and CIA have so much technology it's frightening. I doubt they need the help of some tech head working on phones.

Personally, I think this is a tactic meant to set a precedent for the future.
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:15 PM
 
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Think outside the box, and think what is more important.. Your life or someone like the feds being able to see whats on your phone. And dont think they dont already.. NSA, CIA, FBI etc and hackers know allot more about you than you think.
I'd bet you're one of those that have the privacy view of "if you haven't done anything wrong you have no reason to object to being searched/monitored".
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