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There used to be a guy here at work (since retired) that had to have open heart surgery. Here's the kicker: He was so weak, they couldn't put him to sleep during the surgery or they were sure it would kill him immediately. They gave him a paralyzing drug so he couldn't move/twitch during surgery, and did the surgery while he could feel EVERYTHING, yet couldn't move/scream, nothing...
Can you even imagine that? .
I hope your post was a joke. It is incredible ignorance in any case.
I am a retired CRNA (Nurse Anesthetist). No one would ever do that. While there is a rare report of awareness under anesthesia, some verified and some where the patient mistakenly thought he or she would be having general anesthesia when, in fact, it was local with sedation. It is never done deliberately because "someone is too weak". If someone is too weak for anesthesia, that person is definitely too weak to withstand the flood of catecholamines that would result from paralysis and pain.
I can assure you that no doctor or nurse providing anesthesia is going to simply give a paralyzing drug and nothing else. First of all, we don't deliberately torture patients; secondly, the patients wouldn't survive such an experience; and third, the malpractice suits would result in loss of licenses and rates would go even higher.
Is your retired coworker now a multi-millionaire as a result of this surgery?
I hope your post was a joke. It is incredible ignorance in any case.
I am a retired CRNA (Nurse Anesthetist). No one would ever do that. While there is a rare report of awareness under anesthesia, some verified and some where the patient mistakenly thought he or she would be having general anesthesia when, in fact, it was local with sedation. It is never done deliberately because "someone is too weak". If someone is too weak for anesthesia, that person is definitely too weak to withstand the flood of catecholamines that would result from paralysis and pain.
I can assure you that no doctor or nurse providing anesthesia is going to simply give a paralyzing drug and nothing else. First of all, we don't deliberately torture patients; secondly, the patients wouldn't survive such an experience; and third, the malpractice suits would result in loss of licenses and rates would go even higher.
Is your retired coworker now a multi-millionaire as a result of this surgery?
It's NO JOKE, and it really happened back in the '90's in mid-Michigan, I can assure you. I hope you aren't calling me ignorant, as I take offense if so.
The doctors DID do this, and he told me exactly what I posted.
It's NO JOKE, and it really happened back in the '90's in mid-Michigan, I can assure you. I hope you aren't calling me ignorant, as I take offense if so.
The doctors DID do this, and he told me exactly what I posted.
Come on now! Was it actual open heart surgery or cardiac catheterization (placing a stent)? I've had that done and all I got was a local or something like that. I could watch the screen. They're not going full anesthesia for something like that. Friends, upon hearing of the procedure thought I had heart surgery but I hadn't.
Now my bypass? That was surgery! Full on, out of this world and gone by by nap needed kind of surgery. No Dr in the modern era in a first world country is going to split open a rib cage and start cutting away without anesthesia. Sounds like somebody misunderstood something!
Likewise no Dr in a modern first world country is going to start harvesting organs while somebody is still alive. Prep can mean many different things. I am on the list, waiting for a kidney. I got a call last year but I was fishing so did not get the message until I got back and it was too late for me to even call. The message said they may have a possible match. Basically, it seems they were lining up the possible candidates as to who may get the kidney which may become available. That was part of their prep. Prep does not only mean that a patient/body is going into the OR!
Come on now! Was it actual open heart surgery or cardiac catheterization (placing a stent)? I've had that done and all I got was a local or something like that. I could watch the screen. They're not going full anesthesia for something like that. Friends, upon hearing of the procedure thought I had heart surgery but I hadn't.
Now my bypass? That was surgery! Full on, out of this world and gone by by nap needed kind of surgery. No Dr in the modern era in a first world country is going to split open a rib cage and start cutting away without anesthesia. Sounds like somebody misunderstood something!
Likewise no Dr in a modern first world country is going to start harvesting organs while somebody is still alive. Prep can mean many different things. I am on the list, waiting for a kidney. I got a call last year but I was fishing so did not get the message until I got back and it was too late for me to even call. The message said they may have a possible match. Basically, it seems they were lining up the possible candidates as to who may get the kidney which may become available. That was part of their prep. Prep does not only mean that a patient/body is going into the OR!
I didn't misunderstand ANYTHING. It was actual open heart surgery, the full deal. He told me what it felt like to him when they opened his ribs with the spreader, and I was horrified! He said after a bit he actually passed out, but before that, he was fully aware of everything they were doing.
I didn't misunderstand ANYTHING. It was actual open heart surgery, the full deal. He told me what it felt like to him when they opened his ribs with the spreader, and I was horrified! He said after a bit he actually passed out, but before that, he was fully aware of everything they were doing.
Is it possible they under-anesthetized him and/or he woke during surgery, a phenomenon called "accidental awareness during general anesthesia"? There have been cases where this has happened, and patients have been aware of what's going on and can feel pain. Essentially they are awake, except they cannot move and communicate that they are awake. This is rare, but it happens, and it scares me.
Is it possible they under-anesthetized him and/or he woke during surgery, a phenomenon called "accidental awareness during general anesthesia"? There have been cases where this has happened, and patients have been aware of what's going on and can feel pain. Essentially they are awake, except they cannot move and communicate that they are awake. This is rare, but it happens, and it scares me.
Yes, it's possible that's the way it happened, it actually would make more sense. In any case, he was awake and fully aware during the procedure, until the point where he passed out from the pain.
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