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Two passengers on the Allegiant Air flight an Arizona family was escorted off of this week said applause from other passengers was minimal, short lived and did not appear to be malicious.
They also say Allegiant's crew handled the Goodyear family's medical emergency on the Bellingham, Wash., to Mesa flight professionally.
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Southwest Airlines said Thursday it will treat the family to a Disneyland vacation. Like the Bellingham trip, Fabian said, Disney is on her husband's bucket list.
Fabian and Alvarado, 48, were also in the news in January, when the Hilton Garden Inn threw them a wedding after learning of Alvarado's cancer. Fabian said the hotel donated the space and the food and the couple paid for all other wedding expenses.
Was the fact that the delay was caused by a boy having a severe allergic reaction even announced? I'm not sure flight attendants would explain the medical issue to the whole cabin other than saying there was one.
They clapped because they got to go. Normal people don't clap because a boy is suffering. The idea is just silly.
Yeah, it's very probable that it was an innocent situation where passengers were just happy to get going, and the family (or the reporters) is milking this for all it's worth.
Btw, I'm 100 % behind anyone who truly has a need for a true service dog where their very day to day functionality is dependent on them.
So yeah, I probably got suckered... but with today's emotional companion goats and snakes etc. can you blame me? .
I have a neighbor downstairs who has such a service animal. A big barking lunging pit bull with his balls still attached. Management wont dare question her due to fear of a lawsuit, because she apparently showed them "a note".
So many of the "Service Dogs" I see today are obviously pets. Their owner's can get quite belligerent when asked questions about the purpose of the dog. Those that have shelled out a few bucks to register their animal on line pull out a piece of paper saying you can not ask why the dog is needed.
Although I know people who need service dogs, the acceptance has gone overboard.
Recently I was in a grocery store, and Mrs. Granny Bluehair had her precious dog-person in there. I complained and she told me it was her "service dog". Now, my BS detector is well honed, so I asked her for certification. She told me to "F" off.
I wouldn't resort to trump language but you have no business asking her anything. However, I would detain you with enlightening information as it's obvious your lack of knowledge is a handicap.
Maybe next time that precious dog-person will wear the toe of my size 13 shoe a few times by 'accident'. Like every time my cart gets near it. By accident of course. A few times. By accident.
I can't stand the abuse of 'disabilities' when there are so many people with real disabilities. I feel the same when people abuse disabled parking.
It's amazing to me that you have some omniscience in being able to discern whether Mrs. Granny Bluehair is, in fact, disabled. What special power is it you have?
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Originally Posted by jambo101
I got no problems with real deal trained service dogs but i got a problem with these untrained poser emotional support dogs where some one just orders a support dog jacket online so they can justify bringing their precious little furball where ever they go.
Enlightenment: service dog and emotional support dogs are totally different in training and access. Emotional support animals are not given a "go shopping" free card. In fact, neither are service dogs - you see, a service dog is working. My dog is on high alert when we are out and about and she truly is exhausted when we come home. She doesn't even get to relax in the car on the way to/from because one of her duties is to alert me to sounds - such as sirens.
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Originally Posted by shyguylh
That said, yes, this idea that humans should have to yield to the right of way to a dang-blanged dog, that's perverted. As for "service dogs," unless they can PROVE that's what they are, they should be shown the door too. "My therapist says I need it" please. The burden of proof should be on the one who claims to "need" it.
You have muddled - as is typical of the uneducated - the distinction between service dog and ESA. And just because you don't see it, doesn't mean I don't have a handicap requiring me to have help to go places. My dog gets a break when my husband can accompany me.
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Originally Posted by convextech
IMO, the service dog trumps the allergy, IF it's a true need such as blindness or diabetes and not for "mental health". For the blind person, they cannot walk without the dog. For the allergy sufferer, it's just a temporary comfort issue.
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Originally Posted by longneckone
So many of the "Service Dogs" I see today are obviously pets. Their owner's can get quite belligerent when asked questions about the purpose of the dog. Those that have shelled out a few bucks to register their animal on line pull out a piece of paper saying you can not ask why the dog is needed.
[color="blue"]There's a registry for service dogs? I had no idea! (sarcasm) THERE IS NO REGISTRATION. THERE IS NO CERTIFICATION. Many of us train our own service dogs but understand this: service dogs are highly trained and are identifiable by that training. There is no question when my (self-trained) service dog and I walk through the supermarket or go out to lunch/dinner. She elicits stares because people marvel at her - at her behavior mostly.
As for "shelling out a few bucks", to "buy" (adopt actually) a professionally trained service dog, that few bucks can easily be $20K to $30K - that's right THOUSAND. Look it up. And then there's the need for training the owner and the need to further train the animal to provide the exact service that is needed. Not to mention the vet care.
IF you feel the need to know whether it's a service dog, OBSERVE. As for asking why the person has a need for a service dog, do you walk up to strangers and ask them what's wrong with them? It's the same thing. People with disabilities don't like to have all that attention. Whatever the disability, it's bad enough having attention called to yourself simply by having a service dog, but then having strangers ask you what exactly is wrong with you is horrendous. I don't get insulted usually and I try my best to educate but when a store owner comes up behind me (not a smart move as I'm super easily startled since I cannot hear what goes on behind me - not footsteps, etc.) and grabs my shoulder (assault) to confront me saying, "What are you blind? Get that dog out of here." I take umbrage at that - and truthfully, I take umbrage at those who ask "innocent" questions to determine whether in THEIR opinion, my medical needs are such that I can bring my (highly trained) sweet little poochie shopping or into a restaurant.
My handicap is invisible. As are many people's handicaps. I have a friend with reactive diabetes. She doesn't wear a sign that says she is handicapped, nor do I.
I spent 3 hours in a restaurant recently with friends over a very leisurely lunch/meeting and my dog was invisible to most - other than there was a chair moved out of the way and my dog in the space where that chair had been.
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Originally Posted by jalapenolink
I nearly died from an allergy attack so I feel for the kid.
As do I. I wish there was a solution. One person's rights impacting another's.
Although I know people who need service dogs, the acceptance has gone overboard.
Recently I was in a grocery store, and Mrs. Granny Bluehair had her precious dog-person in there. I complained and she told me it was her "service dog". Now, my BS detector is well honed, so I asked her for certification. She told me to "F" off.
Maybe next time that precious dog-person will wear the toe of my size 13 shoe a few times by 'accident'. Like every time my cart gets near it. By accident of course. A few times. By accident.
I can't stand the abuse of 'disabilities' when there are so many people with real disabilities. I feel the same when people abuse disabled parking.
Aren't you just such a macho tough guy. Confronting an elderly woman and threatening to kick a defenseless animal. You have some mental health issues if this story is true.
......... become more important then the people with Allergy's?
I'll love it when people with allergies get the medical priority. When I get on the plane, the airlines will require everyone who is wearing perfume or aftershave, or who smoked a cigarette after they bathed and washed their clothing, to get off the plane,
Until then, I'll take my allergy medication, carry my inhaler, and suffer in silence (other than coughing and wheezing).
There is very likely not so much as a single plane in existence that hasn't had a dog ride in the cabin, So all planes contain dog dander, and that is every plane, including Air Force One.
Usually a dog allergy isn't triggered until the dog is quite close, so it should have worked simply to swap seats around a bit to get the kid further from the dog-- if it was even the dog who triggered the allergy.
......... I complained and she told me it was her "service dog". Now, my BS detector is well honed, so I asked her for certification. She told me to "F" off. .........
I'd tell you to "F" off, too. Members of the general public to not get to quiz disabled persons or ask questions about service dogs. Unless you happened to be the manager of that particular store, which you failed to mention. If you are the manager, there are only a couple of questions that you are legally permitted to ask. One thing you can not do is to ask for certification.
So many of the "Service Dogs" I see today are obviously pets.Their owner's can get quite belligerent when asked questions about the purpose of the dog. Those that have shelled out a few bucks to register their animal on line pull out a piece of paper saying you can not ask why the dog is needed.
It is really none of your business and what would you expect someone to do when a complete stranger comes up to them and asks them to divulge details of their medical conditions and/or disability. Anyone that thinks it is ok to quiz people they don't know about their private health care issues in a public place is an a**clown of the highest order.
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Their owner's can get quite belligerent when asked questions about the purpose of the dog. Those that have shelled out a few bucks to register their animal on line pull out a piece of paper saying you can not ask why the dog is needed.
