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Old 03-11-2016, 01:14 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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What's so disturbing about their FB page is how the majority of their posting is about being persecuted and attacked, and being used to push an agenda. Sorry folks, but that greatly pales in comparison to the thought of a helpless toddler slowly dying in agony, while the people he trusted to care for him chose to feed him eyedroppers full of "a mixture of apple cider vinegar, horseradish root, hot peppers, onion, garlic and ginger root", instead of getting him adequate medical care... and continue to deny accountability.
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Old 03-11-2016, 01:48 PM
 
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We know what meningitis is and how to treat it. This couple is anti-vax and they lost their son, but they are still raving about being unfairly persecuted.
It's a pathology with infinite manifestations. Some people get the idea that they are victims and cannot possibly see themselves as anything else. And, from the perspective of being a victim, they can justify doing all manner of evil and not be responsible for anything that they do.

As a society, we should stop this witchhunt for imaginary racists, sexists, homophobes, etc... and instead focus our time and energy on defining this victim complex as a mental illness and factor these out of all social discourse as they infest organizations, forge common bonds in their shared victimization and then demand everyone else cater to them and their self-professed claims of social injustice (or whatever fantasy they use to achieve power and control over others). This post is not off-topic. The case of this dead infant demonstrates the natural end-result of the victim mentality. There is not act so depraved or humane that will shock these people out of their self-created psychosis. They'll allow their own children to die. They care even less about you.
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Old 03-11-2016, 02:34 PM
 
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Wait, the friend/nurse said she "had no idea, suggested it could be meningitis".
So they took him to a NATUROPATH?!?

" In the interview, she said about two weeks prior, her son had a runny nose, fever and was having trouble breathing. She said she looked up his symptoms online and thought it might be croup (a respiratory infection). She then began giving him as much natural product as possible. She said he started to improve for a few days, but then became weak and lethargic again."

Collet said she called a registered nurse to come check his condition, who suggested it may be meningitis.

Collet said she and David visited a naturopathic doctor in Lethbridge who gave them a treatment for viral meningitis, but never actually examined Ezekiel.

so, they knew it could be meningitis ~ and took that course of action.

That's negligence.

And this isn't a dig at naturopaths. Good ones, know their role, and when standard medical care is urgently required.

I think they took him to the naturopath first and he saw their nurse friend later as he went to the hospital the day after he was seen by the nurse friend. That s unless they took him to the naturopath on the same day as the nurse saw him. Not sure. Still trying to piece together what really happened from what's coming out in the trial.
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Old 03-11-2016, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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""In the days leading up to his death, they had treated Ezekiel with a number of home remedies, including water with maple syrup, juice with frozen berries and finally a mixture of apple cider vinegar, horseradish root, hot peppers, mashed onion, garlic and ginger root as his condition deteriorated.""

How on earth do you get a sick 19 month old to eat any of that garbage? Horseradish? Hot peppers?

So the kid was dying and the parents decided to torture him as well.

I hope the parents get life in prison.
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Old 03-11-2016, 03:40 PM
 
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I will go along with the sterilization aspect not just for him either.....
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Old 03-11-2016, 10:46 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Child dies

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.2558019



We know what meningitis is and how to treat it. This couple is anti-vax and they lost their son, but they are still raving about being unfairly persecuted.
People who don't believe in vaccination are prime examples of natural selection. I hope these people go to prison so they can't reproduce.
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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For the record, you do not give a baby a meningitis vaccine. It's not suggested until 11 years. That is straight from the CDC.
HIB is on the vaccine schedule for babies. There is more than one meningitis vaccine.
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Old 03-12-2016, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Child dies

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.2558019



We know what meningitis is and how to treat it. This couple is anti-vax and they lost their son, but they are still raving about being unfairly persecuted.


Selfish, horrible people. Doing blatantly stupid things cost them their child's life but somehow they are are drumming up the pity parade for themselves.

"Why are people so mean to us."


The mentality of a 4 year old and the common sense of a rock.
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Old 03-12-2016, 04:54 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Frankly, yes. First they didn't vaccinate their child putting by him at risk. When he was sick for 2 WEEKS they didn't seek competent medical care and treatment. His death is a direct result of their inaction. If that's not child endangerment/neglect, I don't know what is.
You mean maple syrup, hot peppers, apple cider vinegar, horseradish, olive leaf extract and frozen berries arent proper treatment for meningitis? Who knew?????


If your kid is sick for more than a few days, forget the doctor, go to your grocery store produce aisle.


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He was so ill he couldn't even sit, a nurse told them he may have meningitis, and their fix was to go and marinate him in Colonel Sanders' 11 herbs and spices.

Last edited by Juram; 03-12-2016 at 05:31 AM..
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:12 AM
 
Location: New Yawk
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I think they took him to the naturopath first and he saw their nurse friend later as he went to the hospital the day after he was seen by the nurse friend. That s unless they took him to the naturopath on the same day as the nurse saw him. Not sure. Still trying to piece together what really happened from what's coming out in the trial.
So, we have 4 adults (1.5 of whom are healthcare professionals) who did not know (or chose to ignore) that relapsing flu-like symptoms is a red flag for secondary bacterial infection.
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