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Old 03-23-2016, 01:54 AM
 
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She didn't do a damn thing. It's the little monster of a student who did all the damage.
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Exactly. A student had no respect for her possessions or privacy and people are trying to place blame on her. Unbelievable. What happened to respect for your teacher? I think respect starts at home and this idiot was never taught that lesson.
Read the thread. She definitely was involved in significant wrongdoing. She cost herself her job. The student was involved in a possible crime. He will take on the risk associated with that.
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Old 03-23-2016, 01:56 AM
 
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That's why she's suing. She didn't do anything wrong at all.
You mean, she is saying she didn't do anything wrong at all...
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Old 03-23-2016, 01:59 AM
 
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Sex parties are much different then a picture on a private phone. The school district did not own the phone. Her only fault was not have a security code on her phone. The kid was in fault and she got fired.
You have same mentality as the school district but you are coming up with stupid comparisons. Sex party and a picture, really??
Actually, she had multiple faults:

1. Bringing inappropriate material into the classroom. This is the equivalent of bringing a playboy into the classroom but keeping it in your bag. Sorry, but you can't just bring this kind of material into a classroom whether or not it was intended to stay in a bag or on a device.

2. No security on the phone.

3. Allegedly always shared her phone with students and let them use it on a regular basis.

4. Allegedly left the children unsupervised in her classroom when she is not supposed to.
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Old 03-23-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Leaving fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada
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I wonder if there was a landline in the classroom. Most classrooms have them nowadays. Also most students have cell phones. I would not let students use my personal phone unless I had no other option. That facet of the story doesn't add up.
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Old 03-23-2016, 09:50 AM
 
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I agree that she should never let students use her phone on a regular basis. If she did that might put her
in a different situation but still seems tough to loose a job over this. Trust me her picture is nothing these
kids have ever seen before. You can see much worst with a couple clicks of your mouse.
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:37 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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The core concept in "B" makes factually true points like "Those pictures were on my personal phone", "The kids who stole them are jerks", "They even broke the law..." moot.

I think the School Board's ace in the hole is that the teacher also had an obligation to keep private matters that could detract from your teaching ability private. She did not do that. The factual argument that the pictures were stolen from her phone does not absolve her of her primary responsibility.
The fact a crime was involved is part of this though.
What if the student had, instead, broken into her house, tied her up, removed her clothes, and then taken nude photos of her?
Did she still violate her obligation to "keep private matters that could detract from your teaching ability private?"
Or what if he simply staked out her house and took nude photos through cracks in the curtain? (Which is a lesser crime than what he actually committed.) Did she violate her obligations?
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:39 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Actually, she had multiple faults:

1. Bringing inappropriate material into the classroom. This is the equivalent of bringing a playboy into the classroom but keeping it in your bag. Sorry, but you can't just bring this kind of material into a classroom whether or not it was intended to stay in a bag or on a device.

2. No security on the phone.

3. Allegedly always shared her phone with students and let them use it on a regular basis.

4. Allegedly left the children unsupervised in her classroom when she is not supposed to.
And if the photos were instead on iCloud and never physically in the classroom? We have no idea if the photos were physically on the phone (and technically, they definitely were never physically on the phone)
The superintendent alleged points 2-4, and she is suing saying that he lied.

If all 4 of these faults are actually false, then what do you think of the situation?
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Old 03-25-2016, 05:08 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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She didn't bring nude photos, she brought her phone. Her personal, private, locked phone. And yes I know you've said the kid is being investigated as he should be.

What I'm saying is in regards to the phone (not leaving the room) the teacher has no blame in this. She did nothing wrong.
We already know she had nude photos on her phone. Carrying nude photos into an underage environment no matter if it were a magazine, phone, camera, flash drive, etc, is stupidity on her part. So if she has nude photos of herself on her phone then it's a pretty short stretch that she was sexting and NC does have a law on their books that makes it a Class 1 misdemeanor in this situation.

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Old 03-25-2016, 06:28 PM
 
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And if the photos were instead on iCloud and never physically in the classroom? We have no idea if the photos were physically on the phone (and technically, they definitely were never physically on the phone)
The superintendent alleged points 2-4, and she is suing saying that he lied.

If all 4 of these faults are actually false, then what do you think of the situation?
This is a strange question. That's like saying if a person on trial for murder did not actually commit murder, then what do you think of the situation? You can play the if-this-or-that game all day long.

That being said, iCloud syncs photos from iphones to the cloud. So they are stored on the phone as well.
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Old 03-25-2016, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Actually, she had multiple faults:

1. Bringing inappropriate material into the classroom. This is the equivalent of bringing a playboy into the classroom but keeping it in your bag. Sorry, but you can't just bring this kind of material into a classroom whether or not it was intended to stay in a bag or on a device.
Every kid in that classroom and every teacher in the school brought inappropriate material into the classroom. They all have phones, right? Every one of those phones that has internet access is bringing the dirtiest, smuttiest porn you could imagine into the classroom. All they have to do is access it!
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