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Old 03-25-2016, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Well, since you are enjoying the freedoms the military folks have fought, bled and died for I guess that gives you the right to pess on what they do. Oh, help me out here ... are cops also "little annoying kids in the uniforms"?

Lord have mercy.

El Nox
We-ll......I sort of ran into that when I was running military police in the Navy, where a ticketed civilian called my police patrol "teenagers".

I laid down the law to her in my written response that they were not teenagers but US Navy Sailors.......though I don't think that got sent out to her in the rewritten letter from my Admiral's staff.

A and B

A: So it is not uncommon for those who "don't appreciate" what commitment these people have taken on to see them by only their age.

B: As an instructor at University, I see my students as adults and treat them as such; I would hope other instructors would do the same with their students.

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True but most of us live in big cities and are not gangsters
I shot rifles regularly for three years in HS (10-12) as part of JROTC. Granted, I was on rifle team, a varsity sport, but all JROTC students, at least back in the 70's, fired rifles as part of marksmanship each year. Rifle team members were the line instructors, by the way.
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Old 03-25-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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ROTC should make an announcement so people don't freak out.

They're in the student guide.


The ROTC is part of the university. They are an academic area of the university. They are not "aliens," they are people who are supposed to be there.


It is her job to have an idea of what programs are being taught on campus.

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Old 03-25-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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This sort of action is purposeful. It's done to impress a civilian population that they have masters. The military enforces the rule of their masters. This would have been unthinkable in the country just a few years ago. It's reminiscent of the old Soviet Union and present day China. Soldiers traditionally come to campuses in slave nations to break up student groups, arresting and frequently killing the students. Does no one recall Soviet troops breaking up student demonstrations on campuses of Warsaw Pact nations? After the Hungarian Uprising of 1956 the Russians and secret police killed an estimated eighty thousand people. Students represented a major portion of these.

But how can we be surprised? This is postconstitutional America where Army troops may patrol anywhere if they are ordered. The National Defense Preparedness Act repealed Posse Comitatus. That was the law that had prohibited the use of the armed forces except for the National Guard to engage civilian populations. Americans are apparently thrilled. The sheep bleat with joy and happiness knowing that the minions of their masters are close to them and heavily armed.

The US Constitution states that ''the people'' have the right to keep and bear arms. The armed forces are not part of the people. However, this is no longer the nation conceived by the Founding Fathers.

You really should learn how to spell grammar before discussing it.

The use of the present tense to describe the past is known as the historical present. It's a device to make the action more vivid. Homer used it almost three thousand years ago.
I'm gonna call "Poe" on this post.
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Old 03-25-2016, 09:35 AM
 
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One thing I learned from your northern neighbor was: the mandated military training programs from a gov. were too overated. The people still grew strong and free without them.
After reading this it appears that YOU are other than a US citizen. Your failure to answer my previous question about cops shows that it is far more than corrected for grammar that you need on this board. BTW ... what is it you call OUR cops?

El Nox
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Old 03-25-2016, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Long Neck , DE
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Oh dear, the Lena Dunham doppelgänger immediately grabbed her phone and hid under her desk, hardly able to speak with the 911 operator from her fear. Truly a sad event.
She could not be serious.
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Old 03-25-2016, 09:57 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Sorry for not reading the link in the first place, so there were misunderstandings.

My college had some practicing arms that could not fire rounds. They were for the students to get a nearhold in an actual gun. That was China.

In the U.S., I guess that everybody was firing arms starting in some tender ages. So practicing drills in a campus was too overdone, imho.

One thing I learned from your northern neighbor was: the mandated military training programs from a gov. were too overated. The people still grew strong and free without them.
not sure what you are talking about here. the US government doesn't have mandated military training programs.
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Old 03-25-2016, 11:43 AM
 
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Sorry for not reading the link in the first place, so there were misunderstandings.

My college had some practicing arms that could not fire rounds. They were for the students to get a nearhold in an actual gun. That was China.

In the U.S., I guess that everybody was firing arms starting in some tender ages. So practicing drills in a campus was too overdone, imho.

One thing I learned from your northern neighbor was: the mandated military training programs from a gov. were too overated. The people still grew strong and free without them.
"I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto."
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Old 03-25-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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she's gonna call 911 every time she sees them

LETTER: Military maneuvers startle already-stressed UND campus | Grand Forks Herald

copying is disabled so you'll have to read it at the link.
I read her letter and I agree with her 100%.


It is highly inappropriate and irresponsible to conduct such exercises on a in-service university campus.


Additionally, whether prior public notice is given and whether it's the middle of the day is totally irrelevant.


This was a horribly bad idea that could have ended with tragic results.


Whoever authorized this, WTF were they thinking??!!
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Old 03-25-2016, 12:02 PM
 
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WTF were they thinking??!!
Obviously orders of magnitude greater than YOU.

El Nox
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Old 03-25-2016, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood, DE and beautiful SXM!
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Many college professors have lead very sheltered lives. They have been in school since pre-k and have never done anything else. Just my opinion, but many do not have any concept of the real world; have never had to make difficult decisions for others regarding the work place; and do not believe that they need to stop, look, and listen before acting. A little common sense goes a long way.
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