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Old 05-14-2016, 03:20 PM
Location: la la land
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Originally Posted by 11thHour View Post
Hey the illegals wanted the American dream so bad, they were willing to break the law to get it. Well, they found it. Kudos to a job well done, illegals. You achieved that goal.
Actually they would not have jobs if employers refused to hire illegals, would they?
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Old 05-14-2016, 06:11 PM
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Not much different from the "olden days". Back in the WWI era, around 1917--1918, my grandfather worked in a factory in Detroit. His sister worked alongside him, and her husband worked beside them as well. There were about 10% female employees then, so there were no separate mens and women's restrooms. They worked by the piece, not by the clock, so, if they needed to go, they just went, risking other employees stealing their piecework, so many men just peed on the floor and kept working, but women didn't have such options. If his sister needed to go, grandpa would escort her, clear the men out of the restroom and stand in front, then escort her back. Meanwhile, her husband "guarded" the piecework. She was a punch press operator. There were no unions, OSHA, etc back then. Sounds like we're going back full circle, at least now they make disposable adult diapers
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:47 AM
Location: Fort Payne Alabama
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Originally Posted by ditchoc View Post
It sounds almost as bad as being a nurse. Twelve hour shifts where you were so busy with patients that you never had time to go the bathroom. It didn't matter much because you never had time to drink anything. Half the time, if you did get time to eat, it was interrupted and half your food ended up left on the table. At least the pay was better than plucking chickens.
You are right, if a person can't hold going to the bathroom for two hours and thinks it's awful to have to raise their hand to get a replacement for their spot on a mechanized production line, they need to find a different job. Somehow I think unless they just got to sit at home and draw a check, they would find something wrong with their new one too!
By the way, people don't pluck chickens, it is all mechanical as is most of a modern chicken processing plant.
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:52 AM
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Every ill of this country gets blamed on illegal aliens, but the corporations turning a blind eye share the blame. It takes two to tango.

Let's get real for a second. If you have to compete against, and lose a job to, an illegal alien who cannot speak English and has zero education for the same minimum wage pay (they get a minimum wage), I am sorry but you need to reexamine your life. Or go on with your life without complaining. No one is forcing you to work under those degrading conditions. It is the state and Federal government's job to regulate the working health conditions, but if they do not, tough it out until something better comes along. You could always move if your state has no jobs, seriously. Stop being such a victim (I know you love saying that).

BTW, I have worked in factories (not chicken), and it sucked so bad that I felt compelled to study hard to not end up there.

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Old 05-15-2016, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by hhwdavid View Post
"When you buy your chicken in the supermarket, or eat it at KFC, the label will be missing some critical information about the people who helped make your meal possible. It won’t say, for example, that the workers who processed that chicken might have been wearing diapers at the time. The label might let you know the chicken is organic, or free-range, or free of antibiotics—but not that the workers who handled, cut, and packaged that chicken were compelled to soil themselves in order to keep their jobs."

Big Poultry workers are literally peeing their pants so that Americans can have cheap chicken
If the employees start peeing on the chicken, consumers would care deeply . . . . . and be willing to pay $1 more per pound to get urine and fecal matter free chicken products.

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Old 05-15-2016, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Suburban_Guy View Post
I don't think most people in this country and around the world truly care about the source of their food, whether the animals suffered or the people preparing them suffered.

Oh, some will surely express outrage, but beyond that, all just lip service outrage.

People will just shrug, mention what can they do about it, and stuff their faces with chicken, meats, produce, etc, and go happily living their lives.

It's like shrimp. One source of shrimp is from Southeast Asian countries, and the people that fish for shrimp labor under horrific slave like conditions. But no one cares. As long as we get to eat what we like, no one ultimately gives a hoot.
Or, as on this thread, they make excuses, say people have enough time to go to the bathroom, make 'In my day' proclamations blah blah blah all the while ignoring the fact that adults are wearing diapers instead of being treated like human beings. SMFH
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ControlJohnsons View Post
killing animals in a plant is never pretty. there is blood, guts and chickensh*t all over the place.. as far as diaper wearing workers are concerned, media loves to isolate a minority case, and generalize to the entire industry these days, and fearmonger.

identify wrong doing, prosecute/penalize, move on.
"Isolate a minor case"?

Did Upton Sinclair and Jacob Riis 'isolate minor cases' when they exposed the horrors of the beef industry and ghettos?
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Old 05-15-2016, 12:41 PM
Location: Western North Carolina
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Just wait until our chicken starts being imported from China, and we won't know it because they passed a law that they won't have to label meat's country of origin anymore. I'm sure the worker standards are not exactly any more "stellar" and sanitary over there.

Smithfield was already bought by the Chinese. Tyson's and Purdue could be next. Down and down we go.
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Old 05-15-2016, 12:49 PM
Location: Nescopeck, Penna.
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It's a strange, and sad commentary upon our national "mindset" that "scatological" issues -- from food-plant sanitation to same-sex restrooms, have worked their way to the forefront of our national discourse, egged on by the rumor, oversimplification, stereotyping and polarization common to the front row at the wrestling matches. Whatever happened to common sense?
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Old 05-15-2016, 05:25 PM
Location: Union County, North Carolina
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I'm just the kind of iconoclast who would take a "whizz" on the chickens if I had to work in a crappy place like a chicken processing plant. Hey, they feed the chickens marigold flowers to get that yellow chicken color, so I doubt if some urine "marinating" on chicken pieces is going to make them any more contaminated than they already are. Since most pee is a sterile solution, peeing on the chicken might remove E. coli and Campylobacter strains of bacteria that are endemic to the chicken industry! I can see it now as an advertising gimmick - "Who needs Tyson's germ-infested chicken when you can have Chick-Pee pee-washed germ-reduced chicken!!!!"
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