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Old 05-27-2016, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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One word. EMP.
Gee, it's not nuke-proof. Oh no...

Apparently it hasn't occurred to you that military hardware has utility for all sorts of missions short of full-scale nuclear exchanges.

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One more. Torpedo.
Lots of luck getting a torpedo delivery platform anywhere close enough to a U.S. destroyer to hole it.
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Old 05-27-2016, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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Every time the military starts a new weapons program it seems like our government goes out of its way to increase costs. How about just ONE friggin time we take delivery on the original order and hold the contractor to the original cost estimate?
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Old 05-27-2016, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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When I was going through NROTC in the 80's, one of the lessons was the advantages the destroyer had over the submarine.

One of those advantages was that the destroyer wasn't limited by a hull. They had a lot more room to put different types of weapons, different sensors onboard than a submarine. Either different types or a lot more of what they had. In short, they could bring a lot more to the party, one way or other.

The second was that they had a lot more crew so on each shift, they were a lot fresher on a prosecution.

So have we made a surface submarine without the benefit of it being able to submerge?

Now, about this ship being almost twice the weight (or more) of the preceeding classes and still being called a destroyer................
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Old 05-28-2016, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Maine
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The Navy may have taken possession, but it is still at the shipyard in Bath, Me. I just drove by it Wednesday. Really cool looking.
The size of it makes me think it should be considered a "cruiser"


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Old 05-28-2016, 10:26 AM
 
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A destroyer is a fast, maneuverable ship intended to escort larger ships in a fleet and defend them against attackers. They were originally a defense against torpedo boats.

With the development of guided missiles, destroyers replaced battleships and cruisers.

Destroyers are the heaviest surface combatant ships in general use. Modern destroyers are capable of carrying nuclear tipped cruise missiles. Guided missile destroyers are larger and more heavily armed than most previous ships classified as guided missile cruisers.

The DDG-1000 series is 63% heaver than previous destroyers.

The more you read about the 1000 series the more confusing it gets. The various systems including, guns, missiles, radar, combat control, submarine detection and even the mission have changed several times during development and construction. The original plan was to build 32 which is now 3.

The bottom line is it seems to be not much more than a technology test platform for future ships at a cost of only 23 billion.
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Old 05-28-2016, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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A destroyer is a fast, maneuverable ship intended to escort larger ships in a fleet and defend them against attackers. They were originally a defense against torpedo boats.

With the development of guided missiles, destroyers replaced battleships and cruisers.

Destroyers are the heaviest surface combatant ships in general use. Modern destroyers are capable of carrying nuclear tipped cruise missiles. Guided missile destroyers are larger and more heavily armed than most previous ships classified as guided missile cruisers.

The DDG-1000 series is 63% heaver than previous destroyers.

The more you read about the 1000 series the more confusing it gets. The various systems including, guns, missiles, radar, combat control, submarine detection and even the mission have changed several times during development and construction. The original plan was to build 32 which is now 3.

The bottom line is it seems to be not much more than a technology test platform for future ships at a cost of only 23 billion.
That last line sounds like DL-1 (frigate) Norfolk.......except for the cost.
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Old 05-28-2016, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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I was wondering if it would be using the railgun; glad to hear it will. Our local museum associated with the naval base has both a new and an expended railgun test bolt on display- the speed they can attain is pretty remarkable. The power company had to build a separate new substation on government property just to supply the naval base with enough power for everyday ops as well as the railgun's testing needs.
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