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Old 05-25-2016, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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... The big slowdown currently going on in TSA "security" at airports just may well be a deliberate action by the employees to make a bid for more pay, benefits, etc.
What evidence do you have for that statement? Links, please.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:24 PM
 
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FWIW, the title and OP of this thread would seem to be wrong.

The person who was fired (Hoggan) was the 'Head of Security Operations/ Assistant Adminsitrator.' That position reports to the 'Administrator' who is the actual head of the TSA (Neffenger).

Edit - for kicks, you can look at page 2 of this document to see the TSA org chart: http://pogoarchives.org/m/wi/fams/appendix-a.pdf
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Old 05-25-2016, 08:57 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Finally, a government worker being terminated for incompetence. Hope it's the start of accountability in government.
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Old 05-25-2016, 10:08 PM
 
Location: OC, CA
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I have been saying for several years

Hire El Al from Israel they get the job done
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Old 05-26-2016, 06:29 AM
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Location: New Jersey
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The TSA should be dissolved. Airlines should do their own security based on the risk of the individual.
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Old 05-30-2016, 10:12 PM
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Location: New York Area
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After repeated problems with ineffective management over the ever increasing security lines, resulting in thousands of passengers missing their flights and being stranded, as well as security officers missing mock bombs and other contraband in luggage, Kelly Hoggan was removed from position as head of TSA and replaced by his deputy director, Darby LaJoye. He received $90K+ in bonuses in just 13 months on the job. LaJoye promises to reduce wait times and increase efficiency. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Hopefully the new director will actually succeed in this mammoth task.

Head of TSA security operations removed from position | KUTV
This is like moving around the spots on a leopard. It's still a leopard.

What's needed is to "Israeli" security. Travelers need to be engaged on a selective basis based upon a likelihood that they'd be p to murder and mayhem. 80 year olds are unlikely to be at war with the U.S. Teenagers and young adults much more so. Also people's behavior has to be observed in context. I would hope that a reasonably intelligent person could gain a glimmer of knowledge as to what a person is up to. More use of dogs would also help since dogs can sniff fear as well as explosives. In addition terrorists would be thrown off if screening methods were frequently varied. Doing the same thing for the past 14 1/2 years doesn't fool anyone.

Most terrorists are not going to stand patiently in line for three hours for their weaponry to be picked up. Given the failure to detect mock bombs or contraband, and the fact that actual terrorists are unlikely to wait in a long line for the purpose of being arrested, I doubt that a single actual terrorist has been caught in a TSA screening.
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Old 05-31-2016, 03:32 PM
 
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About 7 years ago some TSA agent uttered an implied threat to me because I didn't push my bag through the x ray machine belt. This because another agent had told me to not to touch the bag.

I never judge a person by their job but some of these TSA types make me wonder.
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Old 05-31-2016, 04:17 PM
 
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After repeated problems with ineffective management over the ever increasing security lines, resulting in thousands of passengers missing their flights and being stranded, as well as security officers missing mock bombs and other contraband in luggage, Kelly Hoggan was removed from position as head of TSA and replaced by his deputy director, Darby LaJoye. He received $90K+ in bonuses in just 13 months on the job. LaJoye promises to reduce wait times and increase efficiency. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Hopefully the new director will actually succeed in this mammoth task.

Head of TSA security operations removed from position | KUTV
I am not sure if only the TSA is the reason for long lines. There are inattentive passengers and repeat offenders who dont take off everything until they are at the checkpoint..


I wouldnt complain..since they play their part in securing .
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:43 AM
 
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Finally, a government worker being terminated for incompetence. Hope it's the start of accountability in government.
I think he was just reassigned, not terminated.
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:50 AM
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Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Agreed. It was high time they got rid of this clown. A news anchor did a brief interview with him at O'Hare just before he was canned. The reported criticized his actions, (or inactions), in reducing wait time for travelers. The reporter said to him that there was no excuse for travelers to arrive at the airport in a timely manner and miss their flights due to excessive wait times in the security lines. These very long lines left them stranded, waiting for a later booked flight, which increased stress on airlines that had no room for these travelers on the later flights. This of course lead to a vicious cycle for the airlines of overbooking one flight after another through no fault of their own. He gave the lame excuse that the lines were due to searches and that he had the security of America in mind.

Congress got in on the debate and said that privatizing airport security is a good idea. The incredibly bloated TSA budget combined with its ineffectiveness makes the idea of privatization worth considering. If the new director doesn't turn things around in a big way, that might be what ends up happening.
Scooby, are you in the Chicago area, too? (I am.)

I'm in agreement with all points you and the reporter have made, and really don't understand the mentality of those saying it's not TSA's fault - it's due to higher travel volume and slow travelers.

If a local grocery store starts running insane sales, increasing the number of daily customers and the majority of new customers are elderly and slow, are the delays in processing the fault of the customer? Or is it the fault of the store who does nothing to accommodate this new volume and demographic?

Common sense tells us it's the latter and not the former. And I suspect those saying it's not the TSA's fault either work for the TSA, are related to someone who works for the TSA, do not travel, or haven't traveled recently.
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