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Old 06-03-2016, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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The original thread for this was closed because too many people could not frame their opinions without insulting someone. If people attempt to use this thread to rehash that it will also be closed.
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:33 AM
 
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The new one looks much better. Here's a picture of the old one:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-syxeVV3ZYM...0/IMG_5171.JPG

I don't see much of a barrier there.
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Transition Island
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I don't see much of a barrier there.
Exactly. This is why I stated that I think the barrier should be tall, and people will still be able to see the exhibit.
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Old 06-03-2016, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Some of the barriers I have seen at zoos are tall and wide but the spaces between the wires are large enough for small feet to use as a ladder to climb. And I have seen little kids trying to climb them. The height usually deters them but then if you get just one kid who is agile enough to make it, that's all that needs to happen for him to make it over the top.

Last time my friend and I went to the zoo we saw this happening. There were some kids trying to climb the fences. My friend yelled at them to get down. They did. I don't know where the parents were.

As I mentioned before, I am afraid that some parents will think all fences or barriers are foolproof and will think they don't have to watch their kids.
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Old 06-03-2016, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Exactly. This is why I stated that I think the barrier should be tall, and people will still be able to see the exhibit.
If the barrier is taller than most people and it's designed to be unclimbable, then how will people be able to see the exhibit? The only barrier I can think of that might work on both counts would be Plexiglass, and it would be quickly scratched up, as it's very soft.
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Old 06-03-2016, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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If the barrier is taller than most people and it's designed to be unclimbable, then how will people be able to see the exhibit? The only barrier I can think of that might work on both counts would be Plexiglass, and it would be quickly scratched up, as it's very soft.
Zoos do use Plexiglass barriers to view the animals at eye level all the time. Usually the people walk down underneath the exhibit to see animals swimming underwater but sometimes like in the case of the big cats they are often ground level.

I found this to be an interesting article written in 2012 regarding barriers and the fact that there is no barrier from stupidity.

Zoo officials: Toddler's death in Pittsburgh shows no zoo is 100 percent safe - U.S. News
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Old 06-03-2016, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Transition Island
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Some of the barriers I have seen at zoos are tall and wide but the spaces between the wires are large enough for small feet to use as a ladder to climb. And I have seen little kids trying to climb them. The height usually deters them but then if you get just one kid who is agile enough to make it, that's all that needs to happen for him to make it over the top.

Last time my friend and I went to the zoo we saw this happening. There were some kids trying to climb the fences. My friend yelled at them to get down. They did. I don't know where the parents were.

As I mentioned before, I am afraid that some parents will think all fences or barriers are foolproof and will think they don't have to watch their kids.
They used to have the tall wire ones and no incident. Now granted it is appealing for some children to climb, but they are not going to make it to the top and go over.
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Old 06-03-2016, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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They used to have the tall wire ones and no incident. Now granted it is appealing for some children to climb, but they are not going to make it to the top and go over.
Ignored for a long enough period of time, some children absolutely WILL climb all the way up and go over.

That's the big problem: no safety barrier is 100% insurmountable, and none is an effective substitute for watchful parenting.
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Old 06-03-2016, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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They used to have the tall wire ones and no incident. Now granted it is appealing for some children to climb, but they are not going to make it to the top and go over.
Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't want to take the chance.
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Old 06-03-2016, 09:38 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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The gorilla exhibit at the Cincinnati Zoo was built in 1978.

That means it has been accessible to zoo patrons for 38 years.

The Cincinnati Zoo receives approximately 1.5 million visitors per year.

That means roughly 57 million (57,000,000) people have potentially viewed that exhibit without a single child crawling in and being accosted by a gorilla. Until last week.

The existing barrier is just fine.
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