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Old 06-02-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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After all the craziness of the Cecil thread, it's nice to hear a voice of reason. Some of this sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it?

https://cites.org/eng/saving_lions_A...n_ways_forward
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Old 06-03-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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After all the craziness of the Cecil thread, it's nice to hear a voice of reason. Some of this sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it?

https://cites.org/eng/saving_lions_A...n_ways_forward
The Africans accept trophy hunting by rich foreigners because they need money to fund their conservation effort. This does not make trophy hunting any less a morally reprehensible 'sport.'
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Old 06-03-2016, 12:30 PM
 
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The Africans accept trophy hunting by rich foreigners because they need money to fund their conservation effort. This does not make trophy hunting any less a morally reprehensible 'sport.'
And it's still disgusting. I have also read that the money taken in by the authorities from trophy hunting often does not go where it is needed the most, to the poor people of the region. Instead it goes in the pockets of government officials.
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Old 06-04-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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The Africans accept trophy hunting by rich foreigners because they need money to fund their conservation effort. This does not make trophy hunting any less a morally reprehensible 'sport.'
Do you believe that it is only money they need, or is there also a need to control lion populations?
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Old 06-04-2016, 02:28 PM
 
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Maybe we should have people hunts. Ghod knows there's already too many infesting the planet.

Oh I guess we already do. It's called war.
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Old 06-05-2016, 01:56 PM
 
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Do you believe that it is only money they need, or is there also a need to control lion populations?
A better question would be; if they do need to control the population, is it because of overpopulation, or is it because of human encroachment into their habitat putting humans (and maybe livestock) at risk.

I still find it odd that they raise money for species conservation by killing the very animals they say they're trying to preserve. I understand the argument, but it still seems a bit of a contradiction to me.
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Old 06-06-2016, 05:44 PM
 
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A better question would be; if they do need to control the population, is it because of overpopulation, or is it because of human encroachment into their habitat putting humans (and maybe livestock) at risk.
Habitat loss and human encroachment are primary reasons. Africans want Africa for people and livestock, not for Lions

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I still find it odd that they raise money for species conservation by killing the very animals they say they're trying to preserve. I understand the argument, but it still seems a bit of a contradiction to me.
Question: In the absence of trophy hunting, how much value does a lion have in Africa?
Answer: None. They are killed as vermin everywhere where controlled trophy hunting doesn't exist.
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