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Old 06-18-2016, 04:28 PM
 
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You'd think the fact that, despite 20 million Floridians living together with 1.3 million alligators, the fatality rate is only about one per year would clue you in to the reality that, basically, getting killed by an alligator takes not only a whopping does of negligence by a pretty hefty dose of bad luck as well.
Absolutely agreed. Bad luck and Disney's negligence made for a really bad day.
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Old 06-18-2016, 05:26 PM
 
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You're saying the Florida panther is alive and well? That's big news! Maybe not so much for city dwellers, but they're believed to be on the brink of extinction.

Living in Seattle, I had raccoons meandering across my and the neighbors' back yards, and possums living in the trees. I have friends who live in a town in WA where small herds of deer stroll nonchalantly down the street as if they owned the place. Wildlife in neighborhoods, amusement parks and hotel properties aren't something tourists think of when planning and enjoying a trip, though. Which is why effective warning signs are so important.
Yes, I have seen a panther alongside Rt. 951 in Collier County. While their numbers are down, they are not totally extinct. I saw a big male sleeping alongside the roadway just a few years ago. Other motorists were stopping to take his picture.

I will agree with you about warning signs. Up North on Ocean Beaches, we have been told to get out of the water when a Shark has been spotted near the beach. Why not an Alligator in Florida?
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Old 06-18-2016, 11:17 PM
 
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And that's their right. Are you actually saying that Disney should have the right to lie by omission in order to boost its profits?
No, not at all. Why would you consider that?
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Old 06-18-2016, 11:35 PM
 
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I doubt this will keep anyone from going to Disney. There have been other deaths at Disney, and still millions of people visit each year. Most people have a " that would never happen to me" mentality. And considering this was an extremely rare incident, it will be easier for people to think that way.

Really? Then why do you think Disney didn't post those signs long ago when they knew there was an alligator problem? Read some of the Florida relocation forums here and recognize that there are people who express a fear of crossing from Georgia on I-95 due to alligators.
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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No, not at all. Why would you consider that?
Because it's what you wrote. (And what you continue to write, in the reply you just made to Sundaydrive00).

If the only reason Disney didn't post warning signs prior to this incident was to protect their finances because some people would be scared off by the signs, that by definition is putting profits ahead of people's safety.
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Old 06-19-2016, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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Who said anything about abusing and slaughtering animals?

Controlling the population is as good for animals as much as people. The alligator population is a huge issue if they are encroaching into very public areas.


Humans are allowed to breed as much as they want destroying animals & taking their homes away. Of course this is called progress. And cry when something like this happens & of course the animal is put down & everyone feels sorry for the human.
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Old 06-19-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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Really? Then why do you think Disney didn't post those signs long ago when they knew there was an alligator problem?
They knew their were alligators, I don't think they knew it had become such a problem. They actively work on removing the alligators, so maybe they thought were doing a better job then they were. A posted earlier about how Disney hosted a party on that beach in 2012, pictures showed plenty of people in the water. Why would Disney cast members allow people in the water if they thought it was dangerous? I just think that since alligator attacks are rare, they thought it was fine. Now they know better, and have put up signs.

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Read some of the Florida relocation forums here and recognize that there are people who express a fear of crossing from Georgia on I-95 due to alligators.
Well it seems like those are people who would never go to Disney World to begin with.
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Old 06-19-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Really? Then why do you think Disney didn't post those signs long ago when they knew there was an alligator problem? Read some of the Florida relocation forums here and recognize that there are people who express a fear of crossing from Georgia on I-95 due to alligators.
Why? Do the alligators know and respect the Georgia-Florida border or something?

But serious question--how far north do alligators venture? For some reason I thought there were some as far north as the Carolinas, but I could be mistaken.
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Old 06-19-2016, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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But serious question--how far north do alligators venture? For some reason I thought there were some as far north as the Carolinas, but I could be mistaken.
Here you go: Crocodilian Species - American Alligator (Alligator mississippiensis)

As you can see from the map, they are found mostly near the Gulf Coast in most of the states mentioned.
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Old 06-19-2016, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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Well it seems like those are people who would never go to Disney World to begin with.
Unless, of course, they'd been misled into believing Disney World (unlike the rest of Florida) is alligator-free.
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