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Old 06-12-2016, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AADAD View Post
Does anyone else here open the news early in the morning and cringe each time this happens? I do.
Yes, hadn't even turned on the TV, and saw this here, very sad.

Originally Posted by charolastra00 View Post
As of 8:50AM ET, not a single report says anything about the attacker other than he was male and it was domestic terrorism. No race, no religion, no motivation. Anyone speculating is doing just that: speculating.

Could it be Islamic terrorism? Sure. But as someone who is currently getting *tons* of threats on Twitter by self-identifying white people simply for identifying myself as Jewish (this is a thing, by the way), it's impossible to ignore the rising tide of what is called the "alt-right" in America today. I remember the Atlanta lesbian bar bombing from childhood living fairly close by - there is more than enough hate in this world to go around.
Enough already. What is it going to take for you to wake up? It was just a matter of time that incidents like in Paris would come here.

Old 06-12-2016, 08:44 AM
Location: Taipei, Taiwan
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Oh my god....
This is beyond horrid..
Old 06-12-2016, 08:47 AM
Location: Denver
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Originally Posted by Taiko View Post
That Texas officer who stopped a rifle armed assailant was a fluke. In the real world the spy with a handgun doesn't kill soldiers with rifles and body armor. He was supposed to lose and 99 out of 100 officers will lose that fight.
That's true but the officer outside should have taken more risk.
Yes he could die but could have saved a lot more inside had he thought what could happen if the gunman goes inside.
Cops should take more risk than just shooting from behind cover in situations like this where letting the gunman go is far greater danger.
He should have been stopped, period.
This is a case of bad guy with gun wins good guy with gun.
There were no cops in Paris but here, there was and was engaged in shooting and still the gunman (one single gunman) was able to go inside a club.
Horrible situation.
Old 06-12-2016, 08:48 AM
Status: "Finally Done With C-D BYE BYE" (set 20 days ago)
Location: LEAVING CD
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Originally Posted by Mystery123 View Post
No blaming cops (except probably the one outside), just thinking if outcome would be less violent but if it's planned, probably outcome wouldn't be anything better.
It's sad that the officer outside engaged in shootout but couldn't kill/injure him before he entered inside.
A person with gun shooting at officers outside was able to go inside. That's bad.
I know it's easy to be armchair judge but officer outside the club was not competent.
I'm sorry, exactly how many active shooters have you faced one-on-one with?

BTW, video games don't count...
Old 06-12-2016, 08:50 AM
Location: Texas Hill Country
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As "night club" criminal attacks go, this is not the worse in the US for there was the "Happy Land" in NYC:

March, 1990: Happy Land nightclub in the Bronx borough of New York City killed 87 people in an act of arson.

Old 06-12-2016, 08:51 AM
Location: Wisconsin
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New reports are now saying 50 people confirmed dead, meaning this is the worst mass shooting in US history.

What a tragedy.
Old 06-12-2016, 08:51 AM
Location: Wartrace,TN
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LiveLeak.com - USA: Wounded led from scene of deadly Orlando nightclub shooting *GRAPHIC*

Video from the scene
Old 06-12-2016, 08:52 AM
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50 reported dead (surpasses Virginia Tech massacre)

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Old 06-12-2016, 08:55 AM
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Another day, another mass shooting.

My guess is, as always, yet another individual with the proverbial chip on their shoulder.

A narcissist that was bitter about a world that never paid him 'respect.'

So as per SOP such individuals seek their 15 minutes of infamy by engaging in acts so heinous they'll achieve the fame and attention they so craved.

Just like the Va Tech shooter.

No doubt a manifesto and Internet rantings will soon be uncovered.

Doesn't matter if the stated cause was religion, race, whatever, the underlying root cause is always the same.
Old 06-12-2016, 08:55 AM
Location: Denver
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50 dead, another 53 injured.
One person with AR15.
AR15 clip holds 30 bullets in one magazine. I doubt he brought the big drum magazine that holds 100 bullets.
Did he reload like 5 times?
This is probably why they want to limit and track magazines with over 15 rounds.
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